Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode
Susan Hares <skh@nexthop.com> Thu, 17 January 2002 15:27 UTC
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Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 10:27:12 -0500
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Subject: Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode
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Greg: The real question is: 1) Was persistent BGP peer flapping a problem? 2) Do ISPs need to track why their peers are flapping? 3) How is it really used? If the feature is: - not needed - stay with 1st state machine - if needed, we'll find out why it is needed. Sue At 07:08 PM 1/16/2002 -0500, Greg Hankins wrote: >On Wed, Jan 16, 2002 at 11:10:47AM -0800, Alex Zinin wrote: > > Introduction of the IdleHold does change the FSM, > > and I thought we wanted the spec to reflect the current > > running code as much as possible. > >Agreed. Changing the FSM at this point doesn't seem like it is worth the >impact that this change would have on existing implementations, given that >there are other implementation-dependant ways of doing the same thing. > >A change in the FSM would make every BGP implementation and every piece of >documentation written on BGP outdated. I'm not saying that this shouldn't >be done if, there is a valid technical reason. > >Maybe the exponential backoff parts could be published as a separate draft >instead of including it in the base specification? > >Greg > >-- >Greg Hankins <ghankins@riverstonenet.com> | Riverstone Networks, Inc. >Corporate Systems Engineering | 5200 Great America Parkway >http://www.riverstonenet.com/ | Santa Clara, CA 95054 >+1 404 434 0355 | +1 408 878 6500
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Alex Zinin
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Susan Hares
- Re: Comments on FSM Susan Hares
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Vincent Gillet
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Vincent Gillet
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Alex Zinin
- Re: Comments on FSM Jeffrey Haas
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Susan Hares
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Russ White
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Russ White
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Alex Zinin
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Kunihiro Ishiguro
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Russ White
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode andrewl
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Alex Zinin
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Susan Hares
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Alex Zinin
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Susan Hares
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Susan Hares
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Randy Bush
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Alex Zinin
- Re: Comments on FSM Alex Zinin
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Randy Bush
- Re: Comments on FSM Kunihiro Ishiguro
- Comments on FSM Alex Zinin
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Enke Chen
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Greg Hankins
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Susan Hares
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Kunihiro Ishiguro
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Alex Zinin
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Susan Hares
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Kunihiro Ishiguro
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Alex Zinin
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Alex Zinin
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Russ White
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Susan Hares
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Jeffrey Haas
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Russ White
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Susan Hares
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Alex Zinin
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Russ White
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Eric Gray
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Russ White
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Eric Gray
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Jeff Pickering
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Vincent Gillet
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Russ White
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Susan Hares
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Yakov Rekhter
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Jeffrey Haas
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Yakov Rekhter
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Tom Petch
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Yakov Rekhter
- bgp4-17 Cease subcode Tom Petch
- Re: processing order of reach/unreach in rfc2858b… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: processing order of reach/unreach in rfc2858b… Enke Chen