Re: [Idr] Martin Duke's Discuss on draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-registry-04: (with DISCUSS)
Martin Duke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com> Tue, 16 March 2021 19:23 UTC
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From: Martin Duke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2021 12:23:39 -0700
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Subject: Re: [Idr] Martin Duke's Discuss on draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-registry-04: (with DISCUSS)
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I removed the DISCUSS because I don't think this is unimplementable, etc. The WG just took a very circuitous route to redefine a concept that largely already exists in 8126. On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 12:05 PM Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk> wrote: > You are correct that early allocation would meet this requirement, > however, the WG said that it found the early allocation procedure annoying > because of the "maturity" requirement, and because of the need to renew > assignments. The WG wanted to make a one-shot assignment. > To me this seems like a circumvention of the provisional assignment process. You've saved yourselves this process but added an expert review step, and should it fail, a clunky deprecation mechanism. > You are also correct that the addition of the DE guidance strengthens > Expert Review towards Specification Required, but it doesn't quite get > there. A lot depends on whether an Internet-Draft is considered to be a > stable reference. The working group was aware that opinions vary on this > point and did not want to get into that debate. It seemed pragmatic to use > Expert Review and set the exact requirements in the DE guidance. > As I said, this is beyond Specification required, as it requires (well, recommends) the document to be in the IETF stream. This is more like the "IETF Review" policy from 8126, modulo how much weight you're putting on the SHOULD. If there are good reasons that's a SHOULD instead of a MUST, I guess that's a motivation for the path you've taken. > And, before anyone asks 😉, yes, we could have included explanation text > in the I-D saying why we have this approach. But, AFAICS, no other document > has ever included explanation for the choice of assignment policy. Simply, > this is the policy the WG would like to see applied to the registry. > > Cheers, > Adrian I agree that including text to this effect is abnormal.
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