Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN range
Jeffrey Haas <jhaas@pfrc.org> Tue, 03 July 2012 11:09 UTC
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From: Jeffrey Haas <jhaas@pfrc.org>
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Subject: Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN range
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On Tue, Jul 03, 2012 at 12:16:15AM -0400, Christopher Morrow wrote: > I'd like to see a good discussion on 'why not just get public asns for > all this sort of stuff' > If there never were private-asns, if asns were as plentiful as rain, > why NOT just use them instead? What would be required to go on as we > want, without making making more private-asns? The answer probably is something along the lines of "ARIN charges $500 for a registration and $100 per year for 'maintenance'". Modulo waiving part of this if you're already paying for address space. (And I'm only picking on ARIN because they're the first site I checked.) Frankly I'd rather see the RIRs have *4-byte* AS number pricing in line with the cost of registering a domain ($20 US) and then kill this draft. (Note, also spoken as someone who was going to author a similar draft.) This would then move the desired feature to such tom-foolery as "AS hiding" as a feature, but such things don't require standardization. -- Jeff
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Christopher Morrow
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Randy Bush
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Jeffrey Haas
- [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN range Jon Mitchell
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … David Farmer
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Jon Mitchell
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … UTTARO, JAMES
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Jon Mitchell
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Jon Mitchell
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Randy Bush
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Randy Bush
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Jon Mitchell
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Jon Mitchell
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Jon Mitchell
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Brian Dickson
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … heasley
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Jon Mitchell
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Christopher Morrow
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Christopher Morrow
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … David Farmer
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Brian Dickson
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Jon Mitchell
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Randy Bush
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Christopher Morrow
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Christopher Morrow
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Jon Mitchell
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Jon Mitchell
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … David Farmer