Re: [Idr] draft-ymbk-sidrops-rov-no-rr

Job Snijders <job@fastly.com> Mon, 15 November 2021 20:16 UTC

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Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2021 21:16:27 +0100
From: Job Snijders <job@fastly.com>
To: Jeffrey Haas <jhaas@pfrc.org>
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On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 02:58:50PM -0500, Jeffrey Haas wrote:
> Randy's other commentary seems to be emphasizing the main part of the
> pain is effectively self-inflicted: If you quickly and consistently
> distribute route validation updates in a consuming network,
> implementations that are using route refresh to deal with those
> updates by doing what they're told - issuing refreshes.

I concur it partially self-inflicted, but keep in mind that any EBGP
peers receiving those ROUTE REFRESH messages as a result of this
phenomenon didn't ask for refreshes. Operators are learning about this
infliction 'the hard way'.

Kind regards,

Job