Re: [Idr] Lars Eggert's Discuss on draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-registry-04: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

Lars Eggert <> Thu, 25 March 2021 13:14 UTC

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On 2021-3-25, at 14:51, Rob Wilton (rwilton) <> wrote:
> Hence, my preference is to publish now, but we should work out how to fix this properly before we get a flood of similar documents.

that is a reasonable way forward.

To scope this potential revision of RFC7120, let's briefly make sure we capture the issues that at least IDR has identified, so someone has a starting point to work off of:

- would like early allocation for specs before they are "stable"
  - open question on what to do about non-interoperable changes?

- would like to do early allocation for non-IETF specs

- would like early allocations to not time out
  - or at least time out much later than after one year?
  - for large registries, may not need to deprecate outdated early allocations at all
  - for others, task chairs/ADs; is this workable?
    - how would we do this last point for non-IETF specs?