[Idr] Configuration objects in BGP MIB v2: Call for consenus
Jeffrey Haas <jhaas@pfrc.org> Mon, 07 July 2008 01:49 UTC
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Subject: [Idr] Configuration objects in BGP MIB v2: Call for consenus
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Working Group, Back around 2005 I had a number of discussions with people who had provided input for the BGP MIBv2 work. These conversations were specifically regarding the configuration objects in the MIB. draft-ietf-idr-bgp4-mibv2-05 was the last version of the MIB that contained the proposed configuration objects. The results of those discussions were effectively that the configuration mechanisms in that MIB were too complex and had some potential issues. In particular: - Modern BGP implementations tend to be more complex than the feature set covered by the proposed MIBs. It was not possible to configure all session specific features from the MIB. Since the base MIB is not intended to cover all possible current and future features this is problematic. - Configuration of peering sessions are not sufficient to fully implement BGP in an operational network. BGP fundamentally requires policy for the population of the Ribs. Policy elements and algebra vary considerably among vendors. Providing a general policy engine for BGP in the MIB is likely out of scope of this work. Presume that the structural issues from draft-05 may be addressed. Should they be addressable, do we wish to pursue including configuration objects in the BGP MIB? Given the operational impact of this issue, I would appreciate it if this call for consensus was distributed within and without IETF. I will be forwarding this to NANOG as a first step. -- Jeff _______________________________________________ Idr mailing list Idr@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr
- [Idr] Configuration objects in BGP MIB v2: Call f… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] Configuration objects in BGP MIB v2: Ca… Curtis Villamizar
- Re: [Idr] Configuration objects in BGP MIB v2: Ca… Simon Leinen
- Re: [Idr] Configuration objects in BGP MIB v2: Ca… Danny McPherson
- Re: [Idr] Configuration objects in BGP MIB v2: Ca… bill fumerola