Re: [Idr] WG adoption for draft-kumari-deprecate-as-set-confed-set - 8/16 to 8/30/2019
Alexander Azimov <a.e.azimov@gmail.com> Fri, 16 August 2019 15:01 UTC
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From: Alexander Azimov <a.e.azimov@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 18:01:08 +0300
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To: Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net>
Cc: Job Snijders <job@ntt.net>, idr wg <idr@ietf.org>, Susan Hares <shares@ndzh.com>
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Subject: Re: [Idr] WG adoption for draft-kumari-deprecate-as-set-confed-set - 8/16 to 8/30/2019
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I support adoption of this document. пт, 16 авг. 2019 г. в 17:53, Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net>: > I would also like to support adoption of this. > > We should also (in parallel) reach out to some of the networks still using > as_sets that are visible in the global BGP table. > > - Jared > > > On Aug 16, 2019, at 10:37 AM, Job Snijders <job@ntt.net> wrote: > > > > Dear Susan, > > > > I would like to see the WG adopt this draft. > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Job > > > > On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 10:34:10AM -0400, Susan Hares wrote: > >> Greetings: > >> > >> > >> > >> This begins a 2 week WG adoption call for > >> draft-kumari-deprecate-as-set-confed-set > >> > >> from 8/16 to 8/30/2019. > >> > >> > >> > >> This draft seeks to remove AS_SET and AS_CONFED_SET from RFC4271. > >> > >> Draft is at: > >> > >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-kumari-deprecate-as-set-confed-set-14 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> To quote the draft: > >> > >> > >> > >> "BCP 172 <https://tools.ietf.org/html/bcp172> [RFC6472 > >> <https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6472> ] makes a recommendation for not > using > >> AS_SET and > >> AS_CONFED_SET in Border Gateway Protocol (BGP). This document > >> advances the recommendation to a standards requirement in BGP" > >> > >> [aka RFC4271]. > >> > >> > >> "From analysis of past Internet routing data, it is apparent that > >> aggregation that involves AS_SETs is very seldom used in practice on > >> the public Internet [Analysis > >> < > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-kumari-deprecate-as-set-confed-set-14#ref > >> -Analysis> ] and when it is used, it is often used > >> incorrectly -- reserved AS numbers ([RFC1930 > >> <https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1930> ]) and/or only a single > >> AS in the AS_SET are by far the most common cases." > >> > >> > >> In your comments on adoption, consider: > >> > >> 1) Should the IDR WG remove AS_SET and AS_CONFED_SET from BGP? > >> 2) Is this document a reasonable document to document that removal? > >> 3) Are there technical flaws in the arguments for removal? > >> 4) Are there issues with the text? > >> > >> Cheerily, Susan Hares > >> > >> > >> > > > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Idr mailing list > >> Idr@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Idr mailing list > > Idr@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr > > _______________________________________________ > Idr mailing list > Idr@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr > -- Best regards, Alexander Azimov
- [Idr] WG adoption for draft-kumari-deprecate-as-s… Susan Hares
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption for draft-kumari-deprecate-… Job Snijders
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption for draft-kumari-deprecate-… Jared Mauch
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption for draft-kumari-deprecate-… Alexander Azimov
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption for draft-kumari-deprecate-… john heasley
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption for draft-kumari-deprecate-… Nick Hilliard
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption for draft-kumari-deprecate-… Randy Bush
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption for draft-kumari-deprecate-… john heasley
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption for draft-kumari-deprecate-… Job Snijders
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption for draft-kumari-deprecate-… Brendon H
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption for draft-kumari-deprecate-… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption for draft-kumari-deprecate-… Keyur Patel
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption for draft-kumari-deprecate-… Melchior Aelmans