Re: [Idr] Vendor Defaults (was Re: Review of draft-ietf-large-community-06.txt)

Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net> Mon, 07 November 2016 20:46 UTC

Return-Path: <rraszuk@gmail.com>
X-Original-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0D4112998A for <idr@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 7 Nov 2016 12:46:08 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.399
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.399 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.199, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VjktTOjs7OuP for <idr@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 7 Nov 2016 12:46:07 -0800 (PST)
Received: from mail-wm0-x22a.google.com (mail-wm0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0CD5B12968A for <idr@ietf.org>; Mon, 7 Nov 2016 12:46:07 -0800 (PST)
Received: by mail-wm0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id p190so207515580wmp.1 for <idr@ietf.org>; Mon, 07 Nov 2016 12:46:06 -0800 (PST)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=V2Ll2rzDGbyjYAN70xC+7TvfkCaCKa9L+kXGVIsLkT0=; b=0w1RQFaii86HCnhtlHcCxWUqq2FpMlufaLJ4Z1w4c7Euuzz2Ud2fqFH5IlYG+WNTUO Cz8nnhZ2sgdU6W8Gyb2vJZOB8jNGCJcqu2yowhbsl9BwL4OWVtKhG0zNXJN07Ua+9ZMx KNgoZAut76CNTGq/pIPvFb9DLkC124f4N9mc4Z6dw+vzkgHq5/3YB+D9DNkNkLivcSbI yAwkMiWh+DASYJgZWMUDeUMItpqndqspdbLZCrC2mfZfOOAhlVu1FMxd0E/G27LB4SAC DdgCOfYSWGKZNd7IGc/bkC04Tlhx8O+KPudTSgLTmodTZvRTvG+04iUEn37HSZsd8RsT MBTQ==
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=V2Ll2rzDGbyjYAN70xC+7TvfkCaCKa9L+kXGVIsLkT0=; b=jPC4/BYvBWm71DKowoqaT4q1D1djwKEi/IG91KFnxE+MfUxjvsCVojXg/PFd1bXnD+ Wgi+pezfUxXG4Xgf3CyQ95K08y2gYv7Rtt42JTXHjjc/5H/0QV85zHAeFfv313jBKKKg EHYzbpac4A62KRcwJGxOssOpZ1pF0B4XLBRgpLi8zSaHDBUhkbyRwmD5D7THV7MQvgOJ Z8EyzyuMLnE/9HsuV/fv5ftYU++IUk0ssNLq9y34JaUtaXRJTWWVvWjoAZPy81LC2Knd BJwwj+2LvssDtSPkQNT770hPkXMwShbLJPr3k1/SkBBl47V1e0g8dH6QELVGS7DgTZe3 +4pg==
X-Gm-Message-State: ABUngvfyjl94Su5lbHqdyRUxWYXfXwr3oXtj60hQ0BucPi4k9qUxekoG2eJTftbsTz0gLzAzg1bz17WfDtxoIA==
X-Received: by 10.194.103.5 with SMTP id fs5mr6156024wjb.227.1478551565619; Mon, 07 Nov 2016 12:46:05 -0800 (PST)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Sender: rraszuk@gmail.com
Received: by 10.80.137.69 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Nov 2016 12:46:04 -0800 (PST)
In-Reply-To: <CAH1iCip6ut+C2Hv2FZZ5Bycth+_=smJ_o=_C2LMvBh-fmFgVtg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAH1iCiq6jNtnkta0Bt952EQ9zOKSGt=_cCySsT5XuOKuHYO2nQ@mail.gmail.com> <86860386-9C2B-4BD5-B457-2A6DA5446CF3@cisco.com> <20161106040849.GB18931@shrubbery.net> <5BD3C90E-CC0E-42D2-9ACD-5787FC75BF0A@cisco.com> <20161106194258.GB5113@pfrc.org> <CA+b+ERnEDrPi4SAR9_R1zmwbYCE9aQEQjZN8tK09Y8csMDchVw@mail.gmail.com> <20161107102306.GV24817@gir.theapt.org> <022901d2391f$928dc660$4001a8c0@gateway.2wire.net> <CAH1iCip6ut+C2Hv2FZZ5Bycth+_=smJ_o=_C2LMvBh-fmFgVtg@mail.gmail.com>
From: Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net>
Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2016 21:46:04 +0100
X-Google-Sender-Auth: oPtxgHHSg7rB41MLHm7bggbIJHQ
Message-ID: <CA+b+ERkSJ57rvndCOaA+i8RWm_oFVyR6vO7eupY6JHVh9_68Lg@mail.gmail.com>
To: Brian Dickson <brian.peter.dickson@gmail.com>
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bf10ad6d9da230540bc1c75
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/TdQtk05RG4dHOiJE8ec8uNUTuwA>
Cc: IETF IDR <idr@ietf.org>, Peter Hessler <phessler@theapt.org>
Subject: Re: [Idr] Vendor Defaults (was Re: Review of draft-ietf-large-community-06.txt)
X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17
Precedence: list
List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing <idr.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/idr>, <mailto:idr-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/idr/>
List-Post: <mailto:idr@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:idr-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr>, <mailto:idr-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2016 20:46:08 -0000

Hi Brian,

> Maybe folks from various vendors (including open source implementations)
> could chime in on the availability of knobs for changing global (default)

Maybe we should move this thread to GROW maybe not, but since you started
the pool here I would add a question to indicate by any implementation that
if it drops an attribute (as it is not enabled to be sent over a session)
would it log it in syslog and if so with what error level. The worse
operationally are silent drops in any control plane.

r.