Re: [Idr] [BULK] Bug in draft-ietf-idr-rfc5575bis, worth fixing?
Jeffrey Haas <jhaas@pfrc.org> Wed, 28 October 2020 20:43 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Idr] [BULK] Bug in draft-ietf-idr-rfc5575bis, worth fixing?
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I have been unable to follow IETF properly in recent times, so forgive this stale comment for the archive: On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 03:31:33PM +0000, Jakob Heitz (jheitz) wrote: > This may have had something to do with getting an interface specific flowspec. There was debate about putting the interface specification as part of the NLRI or part of the attributes. My memory is leaking. When the authors of the interface-set draft were discussing encoding considerations, we had two things that came out of that discussion relevant to this thread: 1. We were aware that implementations that didn't understand a new component type may have difficulties enforcing the intent of the interface-set scoping. Given this text from RFC 5575, that's potentially problematic: : If a given component type within a prefix in unknown, the prefix in : question cannot be used for traffic filtering purposes by the : receiver At that time, the magnitude of the issues surrounding extending flowspec weren't totally understood. 2. The inter-domain considerations for interface-set group ids was problematic. Such group ids were likely to be applicable to one domain and may not be useful inter-domain; i.e. customer to ISP. Since there was a likelihood of needing to be able to change the mappings somewhat dynamically, this was more applicable to a path attribute that could be readily modified. In this case we chose extended communities. There is also the problem that if it were encoded in the NLRI, that would mean that the NLRI itself would need a rewrite when crossing such boundaries. Our general experience with BGP over the years usually suggests that this is a recipe for disaster. -- Jeff
- [Idr] Bug in draft-ietf-idr-rfc5575bis, worth fix… John Scudder
- Re: [Idr] Bug in draft-ietf-idr-rfc5575bis, worth… Alvaro Retana
- Re: [Idr] Bug in draft-ietf-idr-rfc5575bis, worth… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] Bug in draft-ietf-idr-rfc5575bis, worth… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] Bug in draft-ietf-idr-rfc5575bis, worth… John Scudder
- Re: [Idr] Bug in draft-ietf-idr-rfc5575bis, worth… John Scudder
- Re: [Idr] [BULK] Bug in draft-ietf-idr-rfc5575bis… Christoph Loibl
- Re: [Idr] [BULK] Bug in draft-ietf-idr-rfc5575bis… McPherson, Danny
- Re: [Idr] Bug in draft-ietf-idr-rfc5575bis, worth… Susan Hares
- Re: [Idr] Bug in draft-ietf-idr-rfc5575bis, worth… bruno.decraene
- Re: [Idr] Bug in draft-ietf-idr-rfc5575bis, worth… John Scudder
- Re: [Idr] Bug in draft-ietf-idr-rfc5575bis, worth… John Scudder
- Re: [Idr] Bug in draft-ietf-idr-rfc5575bis, worth… John Scudder
- Re: [Idr] Bug in draft-ietf-idr-rfc5575bis, worth… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] [BULK] Bug in draft-ietf-idr-rfc5575bis… Christoph Loibl
- Re: [Idr] [BULK] Bug in draft-ietf-idr-rfc5575bis… Susan Hares
- Re: [Idr] Bug in draft-ietf-idr-rfc5575bis, worth… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [Idr] Bug in draft-ietf-idr-rfc5575bis, worth… bruno.decraene
- Re: [Idr] Bug in draft-ietf-idr-rfc5575bis, worth… John Scudder
- Re: [Idr] Bug in draft-ietf-idr-rfc5575bis, worth… Alvaro Retana
- Re: [Idr] [BULK] Bug in draft-ietf-idr-rfc5575bis… Christoph Loibl
- Re: [Idr] [BULK] Bug in draft-ietf-idr-rfc5575bis… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] [BULK] Bug in draft-ietf-idr-rfc5575bis… Jakob Heitz (jheitz)
- Re: [Idr] [BULK] Bug in draft-ietf-idr-rfc5575bis… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] Bug in draft-ietf-idr-rfc5575bis, worth… bruno.decraene
- Re: [Idr] Bug in draft-ietf-idr-rfc5575bis, worth… bruno.decraene
- Re: [Idr] [BULK] Bug in draft-ietf-idr-rfc5575bis… John Scudder
- Re: [Idr] [BULK] Bug in draft-ietf-idr-rfc5575bis… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] Bug in draft-ietf-idr-rfc5575bis, worth… John Scudder
- Re: [Idr] [BULK] Bug in draft-ietf-idr-rfc5575bis… Jakob Heitz (jheitz)
- Re: [Idr] [BULK] [BULK] Bug in draft-ietf-idr-rfc… Christoph Loibl
- Re: [Idr] [BULK] [BULK] Bug in draft-ietf-idr-rfc… John Scudder
- Re: [Idr] [BULK] [BULK] Bug in draft-ietf-idr-rfc… Christoph Loibl
- Re: [Idr] [BULK] Bug in draft-ietf-idr-rfc5575bis… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [Idr] [BULK] Bug in draft-ietf-idr-rfc5575bis… Jakob Heitz (jheitz)
- Re: [Idr] [BULK] Bug in draft-ietf-idr-rfc5575bis… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] [BULK] [BULK] Bug in draft-ietf-idr-rfc… Susan Hares
- Re: [Idr] [BULK] [BULK] Bug in draft-ietf-idr-rfc… John Scudder
- Re: [Idr] [BULK] [BULK] Bug in draft-ietf-idr-rfc… Susan Hares
- Re: [Idr] [BULK] [BULK] [BULK] Bug in draft-ietf-… Christoph Loibl
- Re: [Idr] Bug in draft-ietf-idr-rfc5575bis, worth… Alvaro Retana
- Re: [Idr] Bug in draft-ietf-idr-rfc5575bis, worth… John Scudder
- Re: [Idr] [BULK] Bug in draft-ietf-idr-rfc5575bis… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] [BULK] Bug in draft-ietf-idr-rfc5575bis… Jeffrey Haas