Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reservation-00

Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net> Thu, 29 November 2012 19:22 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reservation-00
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Chris,

So what is exactly the concern here ? The fact that folks are trying
to reserve large pool of AS numbers for their own use or that folks
are afraid that this will be used in AFI/SAFI 1/1 and/or 2/1 and will
end up visible in the Internet ?

If really the concern is the latter maybe we should try to address the
right concern (new instance of BGP and/or new SAFI) rather then
resisting the actual idea of extended AS pool reservation ?

Many thx,
R.


On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 7:19 PM, Christopher Morrow
<morrowc.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Tony Li <tony.li@tony.li> wrote:
>>
>> On Nov 29, 2012, at 9:50 AM, Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net> wrote:
>>
>>>> Internet folks will say "Do not trash our environment"
>>>
>>> As an operator, I feel this is a fair thing for me to say. :)
>>
>>
>> Indeed it is.
>>
>> However, I think it's also fair to point out that allocating a chunk from a large namespace and effectively taking out of the big I environment doesn't do much to trash it.
>>
>
> because private asns don't leak?
> route-views>sho ip bgp regex _64..._
> <snip>
>    Network          Next Hop            Metric LocPrf Weight Path
> *  27.123.19.0/24   195.66.232.239                         0 5459 38082 64549 ?
> *  41.76.104.0/21   196.7.106.245            0             0 2905 11845 64525 i
> *  41.90.0.0/16     114.31.199.1             0             0 4826 8966
> 33771 65535 64555 64555 33771 i
> *                   194.85.40.15                           0 3267 2603
> 8966 33771 65535 64555 64555 33771 i
> *  41.209.32.0/19   164.128.32.11                          0 3303 174
> 9129 9129 9129 9129 {4558,15808,64520} i
> *  131.124.1.0/24   69.31.111.244            0             0 4436 4323 64778 i
> *  131.124.2.0/24   69.31.111.244            0             0 4436 4323 64778 i
> *  131.124.3.0/24   69.31.111.244            0             0 4436 4323 64778 i
> *  131.124.4.0/24   69.31.111.244            0             0 4436 4323 64778 i
> *  131.124.5.0/24   69.31.111.244            0             0 4436 4323 64778 i
>
> (hi twtc! filter-customer-much?)