Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN range
Jon Mitchell <jrmitche@puck.nether.net> Tue, 03 July 2012 15:42 UTC
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Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2012 11:42:41 -0400
From: Jon Mitchell <jrmitche@puck.nether.net>
To: Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net>
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Subject: Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN range
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[JM] Inline.. On Tue, Jul 03, 2012 at 05:08:38PM +0200, Robert Raszuk wrote: > Jon, > > >I don't expect this draft to fix/change every > >situation where AS_PATH manipulation hacks are used, but it should > >reduce the ones where they are used for communication within one > >administrative domain that can allocate their own numbering yet the > >number of sites exceeds 1022. > > How about if each of such internal site uses the same *single* > private AS number and you perform loop detection/troubleshooting by > use of SOO extended community ? > > It is local to you to assign it's value (6 octets seems wide enough) > and it has been already widely implemented. [JM] Robert - are you are saying you do not support the draft as I can use hacks/workarounds such as allow-as-in or as-override in conjunction with site of origin to add loop detection or am I misunderstanding your suggestion? What if I want to use BGP as designed for AS_PATH loop detection and be able to do standard troubleshooting/filtering based on AS_PATH and not worry about (mis-)configuration of soo? Why not have a range of private ASNs large enough to support internal networking requirements of organizations w/o the use of more and more features?
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Christopher Morrow
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Randy Bush
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Jeffrey Haas
- [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN range Jon Mitchell
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … David Farmer
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Jon Mitchell
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … UTTARO, JAMES
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Jon Mitchell
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Jon Mitchell
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Randy Bush
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Randy Bush
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Jon Mitchell
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Jon Mitchell
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Jon Mitchell
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Brian Dickson
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … heasley
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Jon Mitchell
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Christopher Morrow
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Christopher Morrow
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … David Farmer
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Brian Dickson
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Jon Mitchell
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Randy Bush
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Christopher Morrow
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Christopher Morrow
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Jon Mitchell
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Jon Mitchell
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … David Farmer