Re: [Idr] IETF LC for IDR-ish document <draft-ietf-grow-bgp-reject-05.txt> (Default EBGP Route Propagation Behavior Without Policies) to Proposed Standard

"Dickinson, Ian" <Ian.Dickinson@sky.uk> Thu, 20 April 2017 14:50 UTC

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From: "Dickinson, Ian" <Ian.Dickinson@sky.uk>
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Thread-Topic: [Idr] IETF LC for IDR-ish document <draft-ietf-grow-bgp-reject-05.txt> (Default EBGP Route Propagation Behavior Without Policies) to Proposed Standard
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Subject: Re: [Idr] IETF LC for IDR-ish document <draft-ietf-grow-bgp-reject-05.txt> (Default EBGP Route Propagation Behavior Without Policies) to Proposed Standard
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From: Idr [mailto:idr-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jared Mauch
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Cc: idr@ietf.org; Hares Susan <shares@ndzh.com>;
Subject: Re: [Idr] IETF LC for IDR-ish document <draft-ietf-grow-bgp-reject-05.txt> (Default EBGP Route Propagation Behavior Without Policies) to Proposed Standard


> On Apr 20, 2017, at 5:50 AM, <bruno.decraene@orange.com>; <bruno.decraene@orange.com>; wrote:
>
> Because I think the document means "configured route (re)distribution/advertisement policy".
> Possibly this was implied by the word "export" but one could read this as any outbound policy, while a policy setting some communities would probably not help much.

IMO:

someone writing the policy statement saying

term { accept; }

is enough to satisfy my concerns, it’s when people do nothing and are left sending their full rib back to their upstream causing load it’s a problem.  While we’ve moved past the days of 11.1&12.0 in IOS land where there was a high cost on the CPUs to x86 compute where the burden is less, it’s still additional processing and a resource consumer.

[IanD] The larger issue here is not local load causing impact to the "perpetrator" but the leak effectively hijacking traffic that has a much larger blast radius. I've been annoyed at implementations failing open for years, and I'd like to see this addressed. I think this draft at least codifies good behaviour and I support it.

- Jared

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