Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-hr-idr-rfc5575bis-02 "Dissemination of Flow Specification Rules"
"Bacher, Martin" <Martin.Bacher@t-mobile.at> Thu, 02 February 2017 19:56 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-hr-idr-rfc5575bis-02 "Dissemination of Flow Specification Rules"
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Hi, I support the adoption of this draft as an co-author. Martin Bacher -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Idr [mailto:idr-bounces@ietf.org] Im Auftrag von John G. Scudder Gesendet: Mittwoch, 01. Februar 2017 17:42 An: idr wg <idr@ietf.org> Betreff: Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-hr-idr-rfc5575bis-02 "Dissemination of Flow Specification Rules" Hi All, Reminder, this call for adoption is going on and will end in five days. So far, the only reply has been from Christoph (thanks!) with a pointer to his paper "BGP Flow Specification Multi Vendor and Inter AS Interoperability". The paper is long, but I encourage you to look at it. To encourage you, here are a few excerpts from the conclusion: "we think that what we listed as bugs sometimes is a result of unclear sections and definitions in RFC 5575" "With this update we think that a proper interoperable implementation should be possible and unambiguous sections have been improved" and perhaps most motivational to the WG: "Given the current bugs, interoperability issues and missing features we do not recommend flow specification BGP sessions between different carriers […] Invalid flow specification NLRIs or action filters have the potential to remotely trigger a complete network failure." If you do NOT support adopting this work, it would be interesting to hear why. For example, do you think RFC 5575 is fine as it is, and if so, why (considering the issues raised in the paper and on the list). Of course, it is not IDR's job to document and fix implementation bugs. But it is *exactly* our job to fix the spec if it's ambiguous and that ambiguity leads to interoperability issues. If you do support adopting the work, please remember to say so on the list — we can't declare consensus based on silence. Thanks, —John > On Jan 21, 2017, at 10:03 AM, John G. Scudder <jgs@juniper.net> wrote: > > Hi All, > > The authors have requested IDR working group adoption of draft-hr-idr-rfc5575bis-02 "Dissemination of Flow Specification Rules". Please send your comments to the list. > > This adoption call will conclude on Monday, February 6. > > Thanks, > > —John > _______________________________________________ > Idr mailing list > Idr@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr _______________________________________________ Idr mailing list Idr@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr __________________________________________________________________________________________ Notice: This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, notify the sender immediately, destroy all copies from your system and do not disclose or use the information for any purpose. Diese E-Mail inklusive aller Anhaenge ist vertraulich und koennte bevorrechtigtem Schutz unterliegen. Wenn Sie nicht der beabsichtigte Adressat sind, informieren Sie bitte den Absender unverzueglich, loeschen Sie alle Kopien von Ihrem System und veroeffentlichen Sie oder nutzen Sie die Information keinesfalls, gleich zu welchem Zweck. Think before you print! T-Mobile Austria GmbH Geschaeftsfuehrung: Dr. Andreas Bierwirth (Vorsitzender), Aufsichtsrat: Branka Skaramuca (Vorsitzende) Firmenbuch: Handelsgericht Wien, Sitz Wien, FN 171112k, UID ATU 45011703, DVR 0898295 Konto: UniCredit Bank Austria AG IBAN: AT93 1200 0528 4407 2301, BIC: BKAUATWW T-Mobile – Das verbindet uns. __________________________________________________________________________________________
- [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-hr-idr-rfc5575bi… John G. Scudder
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-hr-idr-rfc55… Christoph Loibl
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-hr-idr-rfc55… John G. Scudder
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-hr-idr-rfc55… Susan Hares
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-hr-idr-rfc55… John G. Scudder
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-hr-idr-rfc55… Bacher, Martin
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-hr-idr-rfc55… Justin Ryburn
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-hr-idr-rfc55… pete
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-hr-idr-rfc55… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-hr-idr-rfc55… Jeff Tantsura
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-hr-idr-rfc55… zhang.zheng
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-hr-idr-rfc55… Linda Dunbar
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-hr-idr-rfc55… Zhuangshunwan
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-hr-idr-rfc55… Zhuangshunwan
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-hr-idr-rfc55… Mach Chen
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-hr-idr-rfc55… lizhenqiang@chinamobile.com
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-hr-idr-rfc55… Jakob Heitz (jheitz)
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-hr-idr-rfc55… John G. Scudder
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-hr-idr-rfc55… Matthieu Texier
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-hr-idr-rfc55… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-hr-idr-rfc55… Matthieu Texier