Re: [Idr] IDR Charter discussion
"Neil J. McRae" <neil@domino.org> Tue, 23 July 2019 12:36 UTC
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From: "Neil J. McRae" <neil@domino.org>
To: Job Snijders <job@ntt.net>, Susan Hares <shares@ndzh.com>, "jared@puck.nether.net" <jared@puck.nether.net>
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Subject: Re: [Idr] IDR Charter discussion
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I think 1+2 have some merit but 3 is not managing routing at a human level and shouldn't be here. IMO On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 03:51:03PM -0400, Susan Hares wrote: > The IDR Charter was last revised in March, 2010. > > It's time to reconsider what needs to go in the charter: > > Somethings we might include are: It may be good to consider some operations and management functions to be specced out in IDR. >From the operational side of the house I recall a few long-standing wishes: - ability to see which prefixes are accepted/rejected by the EBGP neighbor - ability to see the maximum prefix limits configured by the EBGP neighbor - ability to relay some contact / circuit details over an EBGP session to facilitate inter-organization coordination All of the above can be accomplished in non-realtime through out-of-band mechanisms like e-mail and phone; but this type of out-of-band channels often are error-prone. I think we would benefit from actively shifting some of this OAM from out-of-band into the BGP protocol itself so less coordination is needed between autonomous system operators. I am not sure how to exactly word a high level milestone suitable for the charter. "Add more OAM"? "Add more operational debugging capabilities"? Kind regards, Job _______________________________________________ Idr mailing list Idr@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr
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- Re: [Idr] IDR Charter discussion Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] IDR Charter discussion Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] IDR Charter discussion bruno.decraene
- Re: [Idr] IDR Charter discussion Job Snijders
- Re: [Idr] IDR Charter discussion Susan Hares
- Re: [Idr] IDR Charter discussion Neil J. McRae
- Re: [Idr] IDR Charter discussion Susan Hares
- Re: [Idr] IDR Charter discussion Jared Mauch
- Re: [Idr] IDR Charter discussion Jared Mauch
- Re: [Idr] IDR Charter discussion Job Snijders
- Re: [Idr] IDR Charter discussion bruno.decraene
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