Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00
jim deleskie <deleskie@gmail.com> Sun, 17 May 2015 00:42 UTC
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Cc: John Heasley <heas@shrubbery.net>, idr wg <idr@ietf.org>, "idr-bounces@ietf.org" <idr-bounces@ietf.org>, Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net>
Subject: Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00
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Curtis, But what would you know... :) Good to see you, its been a while, hope all is well. -jim On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 8:50 PM, Curtis Villamizar <curtis@ipv6.occnc.com> wrote: > In message < > CABg5FUVTSJNF2NOeN1m9ESUzQo3HVNu-fut5PTuHZ+LTigD4eQ@mail.gmail.com> > Dinesh Dutt writes: > > > Hi John, > > > > On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 9:37 AM, John Heasley <heas@shrubbery.net> > wrote: > > > > > Am 16.05.2015 um 11:59 schrieb Thomas Mangin < > > > thomas.mangin@exa-networks.co.uk>: > > > > > > > > I would rather see this totally harmless draft (as vendors can > decide to > > > ignore it without consequences) progress than seeing Cumulus assigning > a > > > capability number for it and later find that we have like multisession > two > > > different code for the same feature :p > > > > > > Or just keep track of your peering info in a database ... With contact > > > info, business relationship, etc. this is not a bgp problem, IMO. > Its a > > > CRM and NMS problem. > > > > > > > In the data center, you've met the other side, and its you. I don't > think I > > said that carrying the hostname was a BGP problem. We see it as a way to > > simplify operations in the DC, by supplementing numbers with names, > > > > Dinesh > > > Pardon my ignorance of BGP, but wouldn't a check of the router-id > resolve that issue. You know that non-routable 4 bit thing that is > unique and isn't an address (but somehow manages to fall within an > assigned IPv4 prefix) that has been in BGP for a while. > > Look up the router-id maybe? And yes peering info in a database has > been successfully tried before. If you need peering info, why is FQDN > any easier to use to look it up than router-id? > > Isn't there something in DNS to map an address to FQDN? Maybe you > could use that. I think some people have successfully used that too. > > Never ran a DC but I always thought that if you brought up a peering > and "it was you" your network was in rather bad shape to start with. > > :-) > > Curtis > > _______________________________________________ > Idr mailing list > Idr@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr >
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- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 Dinesh Dutt
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- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 jim deleskie
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- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 Randy Bush
- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 Thomas Mangin
- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 Robert Raszuk
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- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 Dinesh Dutt
- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 Thomas Mangin
- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 Thomas Mangin
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- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 Curtis Villamizar
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