Re: [Idr] Squatters (Was: BGP Attribute for Large communities (Attribute 30) was squatted on..)

marco@lamehost.it Thu, 27 October 2016 18:39 UTC

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October 27, 2016 12:42 PM, "Job Snijders" <job@instituut.net> wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 10:22:26AM +0000, marco@lamehost.it wrote:
> 
>> I was suggesting the same thing out-of-list today.
>> We should really assign ~5 values to experimental/development puroposes
>> 
>> The problem here is that people are not abiding the rules, and offering
>> more codepoints will only work if people abide those rules. I have no
>> confidence that more dev codepoints resolve the issue.
>> 
>> I am just trying to cope with the status quo. Vendors are squatting
>> codepoints for their own purposes, it is obviously is bad and they
>> shouldn't, but they do.
>> 
>> I can understand how a single value may not be enough for large
>> environments with multiple development processes. So i think that we
>> should try address the "unpleasant" habit of squatting what they
>> should ask for by giving them enough room to work with.
> 
> If you can't isolate your features in development branches, something is
> strange in your development process. This is of course a subjective
> statement, I'd like to hear from more fulltime implementors what their
> take on this is.
> 
>> My *wish* is in that way vendors will use experimental space in
>> development phase and get back to the community to get an assignment
>> when ready.
> 
> If you look at the numbers that have been used so far: 30, 31, 129 -
> those are all square in the middle. If you have concurrent projects and
> need multiple bgp path attributes, I'd expect someone to squat on the
> high numbers: 254, 253, 252, etc - because IANA, obviously is counting
> upwards. The presence of low (not yet used) squatted codepoints, shows
> me that the social contract is not followed, so making more rules won't
> address that.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Job

Job,

I would say that your reasoning is based on speculations, but also is mine as none of us works for a vendor.
I take your point and wait for others to comment.

Regards