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Re: [Idr] IETF LC for IDR-ish document <draft-ietf-grow-bgp-reject-05.txt> (Default EBGP Route Propagation Behavior Without Policies) to Proposed Standard

Job Snijders <job@ntt.net> Thu, 20 April 2017 09:37 UTC

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Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 11:37:06 +0200
From: Job Snijders <job@ntt.net>
To: bruno.decraene@orange.com
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Subject: Re: [Idr] IETF LC for IDR-ish document <draft-ietf-grow-bgp-reject-05.txt> (Default EBGP Route Propagation Behavior Without Policies) to Proposed Standard
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On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 09:32:44AM +0000, bruno.decraene@orange.com wrote:
> > From: Idr [mailto:idr-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Job Snijders  > Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 11:06 AM
> > 
>  > On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 01:30:13AM +0200, Robert Raszuk wrote:
>  > > ​John,
>  > >
>  > > ​> 
>  > > How would this be different, assuming you elect not to change your
>  > > implementation to comply?
>  > >
>  > > ​Well if we are to standardize by rough consensus a RFC which we already
>  > > know is not going to be ​honored for the reasons clearly stated what are we
>  > > gaining ?
>  > >
>  > > BGP implementations which support inbound policy to accept any routes will
>  > > continue doing so .. and those which do not also will continue not to do
>  > > so.
>  > >
>  > > So what is the point ?
>  > 
>  > Although I do not share your pessimistic view on what can and can't be
>  > done, at the very least it will provide guidance for new BGP
>  > implementations.
> 
> This would work for me.
> Can the document be updated to reflect this?

Existing deployments are just that: existing deployments. It seems
superfluous to mention that compliance with the Internet-Draft might be
enforced only after a software upgrade. The same goes for many other
RFCs.

Kind regards,

Job

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