Re: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-idr-rs-bfd-02.txt

Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net> Wed, 15 March 2017 15:25 UTC

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Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 16:25:30 +0100
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Nick,

One thing is to try to use IGP to distribute routes. Completely another
thing is to use it as topology discovery and next hop liveness signalling.

I am talking about the latter ... not the former.


On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 4:13 PM, Nick Hilliard <nick@foobar.org>; wrote:

> Robert Raszuk wrote:
> > Has that approach been considered here
>
> I have seen people attempt IGPs at IXPs before.  It was hilarious.
>
> It wasn't intended to be hilarious.
>
> Nick
>