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Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reservation-00

Edward Crabbe <edc@google.com> Tue, 11 December 2012 18:43 UTC

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From: Edward Crabbe <edc@google.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 10:42:37 -0800
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Subject: Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reservation-00
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+1 I'm for removing them.

On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Russ White <russw@riw.us> wrote:

>
> +1
>
> Lets steer away from the justifications in a draft, as they might well
> change over the next 5 years anyway. The justification seems well supported
> o list, so make the draft simple...
>
> :-)
>
> Russ
>
> <><
> russw@riw.us
> riwhite@verisign.com
>
> On Dec 11, 2012, at 11:54 AM, Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net> wrote:
>
> > All,
> >
> > I think Jon should remove any use case examples from the draft as
> > there is no way one could enforce that the new range will _only_ be
> > used in those use cases.
> >
> > I think Jon in fact already said it very clearly that the point of the
> > draft is to get IANA registration. That' it - no more no less.
> >
> > It would be up to individual operators to use such new range in L3VPNs
> > as Shane points out, in DCs or for that matter in ISPs.
> >
> > Also it seems that it could be useful for dynamically routed home
> > gateways and in that respect I think the current range may be in fact
> > too small so I am sympathetic to broaden this space. If this is bit
> > boundary aligned or human aligned I think is secondary .. I have no
> > personal preference.
> >
> > Many thx,
> > R.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 12:37 AM, Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> wrote:
> >> this misses my point entirely.  we know not to announce private ASs.
> >>
> >> my point was
> >>
> >>  o i do not accept the use example in the draft as justification
> >>    for an allocation of more private ASs.  in fact, i object to
> >>    it and specifically object to the draft being advanced.  we do
> >>    this already without your requested allocation which then can
> >>    only be viewed as an end-run around the IR system.
> >>
> >>  o i can see tli's point about use in large datacenter deployments.
> >>    if the draft is changed to use that (or a similar real need) as
> >>    the motivation, i would reconsider my objection.
> >>
> >> apologies, but i do not know how to be more clear.
> >>
> >> randy
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