Re: [Idr] Working group adoption call for draft-snijders-idr-deprecate-30-31-129

Job Snijders <job@instituut.net> Tue, 01 November 2016 13:32 UTC

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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2016 14:32:40 +0100
From: Job Snijders <job@instituut.net>
To: "John G.Scudder" <jgs@juniper.net>
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Subject: Re: [Idr] Working group adoption call for draft-snijders-idr-deprecate-30-31-129
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Dear working group,

To prevent having multiple drafts in quick succession covering the same
style of issue - I'd like your feedback on the following:

I believe that bgp path attribute 241, 242, 243 should also be added to
this draft for the same reasons as 30, 31 and 129 are listed.

OLD:
    This document requests IANA to deprecate the following BGP Path
    attributes: 30, 31, and 129.

NEW:
    This document requests IANA to deprecate the following BGP Path
    attributes: 30, 31, 129, 241, 242, and 243.

Does anyone object? If so, why?

Unilaterally changing the document while in its mid-flight through the
working group adoption process might be considered bad form, hence my
request for feedback on the 241,242,243 topic.

Please note - the deprecation of an attribute can be undone if proper
process is followed. The priority here is to prevent IANA from assigning
tainted codepoints to innocent bystanders, thus a deprecation document
needs to exist. In time the working group has the power to undeprecate
them for specific purposes.

Kind regards,

Job

On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 05:18:57PM -0400, John G.Scudder wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
> 
> The author has asked for the WG to adopt  draft-snijders-idr-deprecate-30-31-129. 
> 
> If you support or oppose adoption please reply indicating so. Reasons for your position are helpful, as volunteering to review, comment, and/or shepherd. As an aside, I will note that I don't think the WG has the option of doing nothing, so if you oppose adoption please address what you think should be done instead.
> 
> The adoption call will end November 13.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> --John
> 
> P.S.: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-snijders-idr-deprecate-30-31-129-01
> 
> Abstract
> 
>    This document requests IANA to deprecate the following BGP path
>    attributes values: 30, 31 and 129.
> 
> 
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