Re: [Idr] Narrowing the questions: Debate about IANA assignment policies for BGP-LS registries

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From: "Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)" <ketant@cisco.com>
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Thread-Topic: [Idr] Narrowing the questions: Debate about IANA assignment policies for BGP-LS registries
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Subject: Re: [Idr] Narrowing the questions: Debate about IANA assignment policies for BGP-LS registries
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Hi Adrian,

I would suggest:

(A) (2) – because “stable” may be subjective.

Regarding (B), assuming that the WG has done a fair review given (A)(2) and if so then either (2) or (3) is ok. After all DE are the “experts” so they can expected to be able to judge and also engage with WG if that is necessary.

Ack for (C).

Thanks,
Ketan

From: Idr <idr-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Adrian Farrel
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Subject: [Idr] Narrowing the questions: Debate about IANA assignment policies for BGP-LS registries

Many thanks for the continued rapid progress and to Alvaro for pointing up another issue at the mic.

Although 7370 offers a template (which I’ll use) I would like to get answers to some very specific questions to narrow this down…


  1.  What do you want to require as the base reference?


1.      Do you want to limit allocations to come from *stable* WG drafts?
This is similar (as Alvaro notes) to RFC 7120 “Early Allocation” except it doesn’t invoke the AD.



2.      Do you want to limit allocations to come from (any) WG drafts?
This is more relaxed than “Early Allocation” but we might have to handle when a draft is updated and changes the meaning of the code point. We might want IANA to the draft version for allocations. Or we could say that it is all work in progress so the meaning is always the most recent version of the draft.



3.      Do you want to allow any I-D (includes WG and individual I-Ds)?
This moves closer to “First Come First Served” but requires some reference and the DE can check that it is “somewhat clear”.



4.      Do you want to allow requests without I-Ds?
This is closest to “First Come First Served”, but I think I am hearing “no” to this question.


  1.  How much review do you want IDR to be allowed?


  1.  DE must see WG consensus for the allocation.
  2.  DE must see all issues from the WG addressed by author before allocation.
  3.  DE must have answers to all issues from the WG before allocation.
  4.  DE must “seriously listen” to comments.

  1.  How long should IDR be given to comment?

I think this resolves to two weeks in all cases.

Thanks,
Adrian