[Idr] Early allocations and other ways to avoid squatting on code points

"John G. Scudder" <jgs@juniper.net> Tue, 01 November 2016 15:05 UTC

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Subject: [Idr] Early allocations and other ways to avoid squatting on code points
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I have changed the subject line to reflect the fact we are off on a tangent and no longer relevant to adoption of the draft in question.

On Nov 1, 2016, at 10:41 AM, Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net> wrote:
> ​Few days back You and others complained that Wide was not implemented by anyone for so many years. Now when we see it actually was implemented at least by few BGP code basis ​it is again bad. 

I'm not sure what you mean by "it is again bad" but see the message I just sent -- we were not asked for an allocation for the code base in question (not sure what other code bases you are including in "few", I think one was reported).

When the question of early allocation for wide came up recently (I don't recall if it was on the list, in private email, in conversation or what, sorry) my feedback was to ask whether wide satisfies the stability requirement given in RFC 7120 Section 2 (c). Certainly if there is need for an allocation for wide and it can satisfy the RFC 7120 requirements, let's do it. If it can't satisfy the requirements, read on:

> So to me the problem we need to solve is how to allow early implementations for any proposal on the table especially now when we have no two but at least 8 production BGP implementations (and growing). Forbidding it does not seems to me like a solution to the main problem.

I expect we will be discussing this at our upcoming meeting, although that's no reason not to continue the conversation on the list right now, on the contrary. Jeff has also written a draft that tries to address the problem, he posted a pointer to it yesterday, https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-haas-idr-extended-experimental/

Thanks,

--John