Re: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-sas-idr-maxprefix-inbound-02.txt
Gyan Mishra <hayabusagsm@gmail.com> Thu, 15 April 2021 18:34 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-sas-idr-maxprefix-inbound-02.txt
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Hi Robert I agree “soft-reconfigure inbound” should be mentioned. With route refresh version 1 RFC 2918 the adj-rib-out or adj-rib-in dynamically with a soft clear in or out CLi command. With RFC 7513 provided an enhancement to dynamically update the adj-rib without a CLI soft clear. The cisco “soft-reconfigure inbound” existed for a long time prior to RFC 2918 where it creates an additional pre policy RIB, essentially a copy of the BGP rib - pre policy. Soft-reconfigure was the way Cisco was able to do soft clear so you don’t have to hard clear a peer. Once RFC 2918 came out some operators ripped out the soft-reconfigure, however a lot of operations kept in place for troubleshooting BGP policies issues looking at the “pre policy” RIB in and out. For maxim prefix with soft-reconfigure configured on a peer, I think the pre policy rib could change or be impacted so we should definitely include in the draft. Since soft is pre policy and maximum prefix acts on adj-rib-in post policy I am guessing that it may not impact the pre policy rib. Kind Regards Gyan On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 8:17 AM Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net> wrote: > Authors, > > I think I have one question or suggestion. > > As you all know some implementations allow you to explicitly force BGP > speaker to keep (pre-policy) all routes/paths received. > > Example: > > neighbor 192.168.1.1 soft-reconfiguration inbound > > The draft does not seem to comment on this case yet if implementation > maintains the above behaviour > at least some of the justifications for the document is gone. > > I think that draft should at least mention such behaviour, not force to > change it however put some light that if > configured by the operator some of the benefits of inbound prefix limit > will not be fully effective. > > Many thx, > Robert. > > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 11:27 PM <internet-drafts@ietf.org> wrote: > >> >> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts >> directories. >> >> >> Title : BGP Maximum Prefix Limits Inbound >> Authors : Melchior Aelmans >> Massimiliano Stucchi >> Job Snijders >> Filename : draft-sas-idr-maxprefix-inbound-02.txt >> Pages : 8 >> Date : 2021-04-14 >> >> Abstract: >> This document describes mechanisms to limit the negative impact of >> route leaks [RFC7908] and/or resource exhaustion in BGP [RFC4271] >> implementations. >> >> >> >> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sas-idr-maxprefix-inbound/ >> >> There are also htmlized versions available at: >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sas-idr-maxprefix-inbound-02 >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-sas-idr-maxprefix-inbound-02 >> >> A diff from the previous version is available at: >> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-sas-idr-maxprefix-inbound-02 >> >> >> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of >> submission >> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >> >> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: >> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> I-D-Announce mailing list >> I-D-Announce@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce >> Internet-Draft directories: http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html >> or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt >> > _______________________________________________ > Idr mailing list > Idr@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr > -- <http://www.verizon.com/> *Gyan Mishra* *Network Solutions A**rchitect * *Email gyan.s.mishra@verizon.com <gyan.s.mishra@verizon.com>* *M 301 502-1347*
- Re: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-sas-idr-maxprefix-inb… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-sas-idr-maxprefix-inb… Job Snijders
- Re: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-sas-idr-maxprefix-inb… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-sas-idr-maxprefix-inb… Gyan Mishra
- Re: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-sas-idr-maxprefix-inb… heasley
- Re: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-sas-idr-maxprefix-inb… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-sas-idr-maxprefix-inb… Gyan Mishra
- Re: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-sas-idr-maxprefix-inb… heasley
- Re: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-sas-idr-maxprefix-inb… Melchior Aelmans
- Re: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-sas-idr-maxprefix-inb… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-sas-idr-maxprefix-inb… Melchior Aelmans
- Re: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-sas-idr-maxprefix-inb… Jakob Heitz (jheitz)
- Re: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-sas-idr-maxprefix-inb… Gyan Mishra
- Re: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-sas-idr-maxprefix-inb… Jakob Heitz (jheitz)
- Re: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-sas-idr-maxprefix-inb… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-sas-idr-maxprefix-inb… Gyan Mishra
- Re: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-sas-idr-maxprefix-inb… heasley
- Re: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-sas-idr-maxprefix-inb… Brian Dickson
- Re: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-sas-idr-maxprefix-inb… Gyan Mishra
- Re: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-sas-idr-maxprefix-inb… Melchior Aelmans
- Re: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-sas-idr-maxprefix-inb… Job Snijders