Re: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-idr-large-community-01.txt

Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net> Wed, 12 October 2016 22:46 UTC

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>
> Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 12:08:44AM +0200, Robert Raszuk:
> > I believe Jeff was talking about intelligent cleanup with sufficient
> > information embedded into community itself such that forwarding BGP
> speaker
> > can decide what to pass and what to drop
> > ... not an unconditional blind drop.
>
> I (we, I believe) do not want vendors to do anything automatic about
> dropping/altering communities.  But, provide us all the tools to manipulate
> them.
>

​It's like asking vendors .. Dear vendor pls give me tools to unlock
rounded by design metal nut :) ​


> > Some say that standardizing, deployment, education of large communities
> > will take years. And in fact they are very correct. It will take that
> much
> > indeed.
>
> I think you are speculating to push your drafts; you are certainly
> persistent.
>

No .. not at all. I currently gave up on pushing wide or even common header
idea if you have not already noticed since large was accepted as WG doc. ​


> I do not expect education to take much time at all.


​Well I value your expectations however the personal experience educating
network community in Nanog, RIPE, APRICOT and many *NOGs proves me
otherwise. I think Job was right on the spot in his recent mail on the
estimate of the effort.


> I hope that standardizing
> ​ ​
> is swift - EOY.


​Sure.​


> And, I expect that we will see rapid adoption (deployment) in
> some specific places; particularly exchanges with RSes.
>

​If you need large community for IXes then it is fine. To me real use of
BGP as protocol is a bit more then that.

Best,
R.