Re: [Idr] BGP Auto-Discovery Protocol State Requirements

Robert Raszuk <> Tue, 23 March 2021 15:58 UTC

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From: Robert Raszuk <>
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2021 16:58:08 +0100
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Subject: Re: [Idr] BGP Auto-Discovery Protocol State Requirements
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> The position I have been taking is figuring out what is required for BGP
> auto-configuration.  Data center is the specific scenario we are solving
> for
> right now.  The working group may take on non-data center cases as future
> work.  The analysis discussion is being used to refine what state is
> required for each of the scenarios.

And I think this is where the confusion is coming from.

The document is about DC but it includes lots of additional baggage which
in view of number of people is not required for the DC auto discovery.

I guess in the best intentions you added all additional data there thinking
ahead and planning to use the same mechanism for any BGP auto discovery
scenario which was precisely agreed not to be a goal of this document to
start with.

So my little suggestion is to scope this to DC. If we end up with two
different set of requirements - one for DC and one for WAN/IXP that would
be IMO fine.

Many thx,