Re: [Idr] New BGP capability to advertise running daemon version

Donatas Abraitis <donatas.abraitis@gmail.com> Fri, 02 August 2019 15:27 UTC

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From: Donatas Abraitis <donatas.abraitis@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2019 18:27:28 +0300
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Subject: Re: [Idr] New BGP capability to advertise running daemon version
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https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-idr-operational-message-00
sounds interesting to me as well. It can be used to implement IRC over
BGP :)

On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 6:22 PM Nick Hilliard <nick@foobar.org> wrote:
>
> I'd be very much in favour of seeing draft-ietf-idr-operational-message
> being pushed towards publication.
>
> Nick
>
> Job Snijders wrote on 02/08/2019 16:21:
> > Perhaps this work should be picked up again.
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 00:19 Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net
> > <mailto:robert@raszuk.net>> wrote:
> >
> >     Hi,
> >
> >     Just to refresh memory there is an active WG document precisely
> >     describing how to carry such information between BGP peers. It is
> >     called BGP Operational Message
> >
> >     https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-idr-operational-message-00
> >
> >     The ADVISE TLV there section 3.4.1 and 4 are proposed with the very
> >     same intention as this discussion is targeting.
> >
> >     Due to no customer push vendors have not implemented it yet. So the
> >     draft is just hanging waiting for implementations.
> >
> >     I think if there is some new interest please consider to review the
> >     linked WG doc and possibly augment it with missing elements.
> >
> >     Use of BGP capabilities in current state of implementation of bgp
> >     dynamic capabilities is really not the right messaging vehicle here.
> >
> >     Thx,
> >     R.
> >
> >     On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 11:09 AM Job Snijders <job@ntt.net
> >     <mailto:job@ntt.net>> wrote:
> >
> >         Right now operators use the peer’s MAC address and certain TCP
> >         behaviorism (nmap -O) to attempt to conclude what the remote
> >         side might be in case of issues.
> >
> >         I see value in having this on by default. Security through
> >         obscurity isn’t the best defense anyway. I’m assuming a degree
> >         of trust exists anyway, why else set up a BGP session in the
> >         first place?
> >
> >         I think there are valid use cases, i think it is worthwhile
> >         exploring how to implement this concept.
> >
> >         Kind regards,
> >
> >         Job
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