[Idr] Re: WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp-version-capability-08, to end September 25
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I support WG adoption. It useful to be able to discover the deployed software versions to better know the attendant features and bugs. Thanks, Acee > On Aug 7, 2024, at 08:25, Donatas Abraitis <donatas.abraitis@gmail.com> wrote: > > A new version submitted: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-abraitis-bgp-version-capability-16. TL;DR; Added more implementations (ExaBGP). > > On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 11:03 AM Donatas Abraitis <donatas.abraitis@gmail.com <mailto:donatas.abraitis@gmail.com>> wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> submitted a new version https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-abraitis-bgp-version-capability-15. >> >> TL;DR; Added more implementations, the version should be a non-null terminated string, and dropped the figure which was a bit misleading and not needed at all because the length is encoded directly into capability's length. >> >> On Wed, Nov 8, 2023 at 2:52 PM Donatas Abraitis <donatas.abraitis@gmail.com <mailto:donatas.abraitis@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> Hi, folks! >>> >>> I want to get back to this draft and hear the final thoughts on this. Speaking with some people in IETF118, this seems reasonable giving one more chance. In short: there are already 4 or 5 open-source implementations supporting this BGP capability, and Wireshark (maybe more from the observability tools) has it too. The motivation is quite simple: very trivial and fast to implement while giving a useful information set for the operators. >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 9:46 PM Donatas Abraitis <donatas.abraitis@gmail.com <mailto:donatas.abraitis@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> >I think the name “version” is too close to the BGP version that peers negotiate. >>>> >>>> I disagree. "BGP version" == Protocol version, while "Software Version" == Software, running BGP protocol, version. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 7:01 PM Linda Dunbar <linda.dunbar@futurewei.com <mailto:linda.dunbar@futurewei.com>> wrote: >>>>> Donatas, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I think the name “version” is too close to the BGP version that peers negotiate. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Why not use “debugging capability”? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Linda >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: Donatas Abraitis <donatas.abraitis@gmail.com <mailto:donatas.abraitis@gmail.com>> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2023 7:46 AM >>>>> To: Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net <mailto:robert@raszuk.net>> >>>>> Cc: Linda Dunbar <linda.dunbar@futurewei.com <mailto:linda.dunbar@futurewei.com>>; Gyan Mishra <hayabusagsm@gmail.com <mailto:hayabusagsm@gmail.com>>; idr@ietf.org <mailto:idr@ietf.org> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp-version-capability-08, to end September 25 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Quick update: IANA has assigned Software Version Capability number (75), updated: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-abraitis-bgp-version-capability <https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdatatracker.ietf.org%2Fdoc%2Fhtml%2Fdraft-abraitis-bgp-version-capability&data=05%7C01%7Clinda.dunbar%40futurewei.com%7Cfc943f52c4ff4981008608dafeda80ad%7C0fee8ff2a3b240189c753a1d5591fedc%7C1%7C0%7C638102511702204675%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=JIpgyvd7WKfFTLpZY%2FsAxJP5y9qGR5Ob7MTkCi61S9s%3D&reserved=0>. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Jan 21, 2023 at 1:19 PM Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net <mailto:robert@raszuk.net>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Linda, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Per RFC4271: >>>>> >>>>> A NOTIFICATION message is sent when an error condition is detected. The BGP connection is closed immediately after it is sent. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> This is a general statement. You can't take it out of the current context. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Do most deployed implementations send “Subsequent OPEN” as you stated? >>>>> >>>>> “Subsequent open would be tried without this new optional parameter” >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Again we are discussing the addition of a new extension. Such addition can define in itself what implementation should do when receiving such a NOTIFICATION message indicating that peer does not understand the new extension. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Rgs, >>>>> >>>>> R. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Donatas >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Donatas >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Donatas >> >> >> -- >> Donatas > > > -- > Donatas > _______________________________________________ > Idr mailing list -- idr@ietf.org > To unsubscribe send an email to idr-leave@ietf.org
- [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp-ver… John Scudder
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Randy Bush
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Jakob Heitz (jheitz)
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Nick Hilliard
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Donatas Abraitis
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Nick Hilliard
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… tom petch
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Nick Hilliard
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Jakob Heitz (jheitz)
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… john heasley
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Randy Bush
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Donatas Abraitis
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Jakob Heitz (jheitz)
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… John Scudder
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… John Scudder
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… EXT - heas
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… tom petch
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… John Scudder
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Jakob Heitz (jheitz)
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Jakob Heitz (jheitz)
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Jakob Heitz (jheitz)
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… John Scudder
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Donatas Abraitis
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… John Scudder
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… John Scudder
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Randy Bush
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… John Scudder
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Donatas Abraitis
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Jakob Heitz (jheitz)
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Aijun Wang
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… bruno.decraene
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Jakob Heitz (jheitz)
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Donatas Abraitis
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Alvaro Retana
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Donatas Abraitis
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Donatas Abraitis
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Donatas Abraitis
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Donatas Abraitis
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Jakob Heitz (jheitz)
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Donatas Abraitis
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Donatas Abraitis
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Claudio Jeker
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Gyan Mishra
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… John Scudder
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Gyan Mishra
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Linda Dunbar
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Gyan Mishra
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Linda Dunbar
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Donatas Abraitis
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Jeffrey Haas
- [Idr] draft-ietf-rtgwg-net2cloud-problem-statemen… Linda Dunbar
- Re: [Idr] draft-ietf-rtgwg-net2cloud-problem-stat… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] draft-ietf-rtgwg-net2cloud-problem-stat… Linda Dunbar
- Re: [Idr] draft-ietf-rtgwg-net2cloud-problem-stat… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] [EXTERNAL] Re: draft-ietf-rtgwg-net2clo… Kausik Majumdar
- Re: [Idr] [EXTERNAL] Re: draft-ietf-rtgwg-net2clo… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Gyan Mishra
- Re: [Idr] [EXTERNAL] Re: draft-ietf-rtgwg-net2clo… Kausik Majumdar
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Gyan Mishra
- Re: [Idr] [EXTERNAL] Re: draft-ietf-rtgwg-net2clo… Linda Dunbar
- Re: [Idr] [EXTERNAL] Re: draft-ietf-rtgwg-net2clo… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Donatas Abraitis
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Linda Dunbar
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Donatas Abraitis
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Linda Dunbar
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Donatas Abraitis
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Donatas Abraitis
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Jakob Heitz (jheitz)
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Gyan Mishra
- [Idr] Re: WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Donatas Abraitis
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Gyan Mishra
- [Idr] Re: WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Donatas Abraitis
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… John Scudder
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Gyan Mishra
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Jeffrey Haas
- [Idr] Re: WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Acee Lindem
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… John Scudder
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Donatas Abraitis
- [Idr] Re: WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Randy Bush
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… John Scudder
- Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp… Robert Raszuk