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utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Tha=
nk you, that looks good. I appreciate this. &nbsp;If you have cleared all is=
sues you can post a new revision (ask your responsible AD).</div><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Best wishes,</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Gorry</d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On 29 Oct 2025, at 16:51, R=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cou=
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<b>To: </b>Reshma Das &lt;dreshma@juniper.net&gt;, The IESG &lt;iesg@ietf.or=
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<b>Cc: </b>draft-ietf-idr-link-bandwidth@ietf.org &lt;draft-ietf-idr-link-ba=
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<b>Subject: </b>Re: Gorry Fairhurst's No Objection on draft-ietf-idr-link-ba=
ndwidth-19: (with COMMENT)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt">On 22/10/2025 07:00,=
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rier New&quot;">Hi Gory,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cou=
rier New&quot;">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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rier New&quot;">Thank you for reviewing the document. Please find my reply i=
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rier New&quot;">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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rier New&quot;">RD&gt;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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rier New&quot;">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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rier New&quot;">Thanks &amp; Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cou=
rier New&quot;">Reshma Das</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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a><br>
<b>Cc: </b><a href=3D"mailto:draft-ietf-idr-link-bandwidth@ietf.org">draft-i=
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<a href=3D"mailto:draft-ietf-idr-link-bandwidth@ietf.org">&lt;draft-ietf-idr=
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<b>Subject: </b>Gorry Fairhurst's No Objection on draft-ietf-idr-link-bandwi=
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COMMENT:<br>
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<br>
Thank you for the effort put into completing this specification. I have adop=
ted<br>
the position of "No Objection", because I think my transport-related comment=
s<br>
are likely easily addressed.<br>
<br>
I have two substantial comments with the text, that were also echoed by one o=
f<br>
the review team:<br>
<br>
1. "The bandwidth value is encoded as a 4-octet value representing bytes per=
<br>
second. What if there were cases where a 100Gbps (or higher) path exists, bu=
t<br>
the maximum value that could be encoded is 8x2^32 =3D ~34Gbps?"<br>
<br>
- Is there still a possibility that it be worth using Kbps as the unit rathe=
r<br>
than bytes?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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ze:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">RD&gt;
</span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;c=
olor:black;background:white">The bandwidth value format is an IEEE 754 32-bi=
t<span class=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span><span class=3D"ou=
tlook-search-highlight"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;;color:black">floating</span></span><span class=3D"apple-conv=
erted-space"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&q=
uot;;color:black;background:white">&nbsp;</span></span><span class=3D"outloo=
k-search-highlight"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courie=
r New&quot;;color:black">point</span></span><span class=3D"apple-converted-s=
pace"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;co=
lor:black;background:white">&nbsp;</span></span><span style=3D"font-size:11.=
0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black;background:white">number=
.&nbsp;
 Its maximum range is roughly 3.4 x 10^38. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt">GF: Ah, understood. <=
o:p></o:p></span></p>
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2. I don't understand this text: "carries the bandwidth information of a<br>=

router", to me it announces bandwidth information of a "link "(aka hop). Is i=
t<br>
really about router forwarding capability?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">RD&gt; The Link Bandwidth Ext=
ended Community provides a mechanism for routers to advertise the bandwidth o=
f their downstream path that may either be a directly
 connected link or multi-hop/multipath nexthop.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>GF: I suggest one way to resolve this would be to state:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">"carries the bandwidth information of&nb=
sp;</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">a directly con=
nected link or multi-hop/multipath nexthop advertised by a</span><span style=
=3D"font-size:11.0pt">&nbsp; router"<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">RD1&gt; ACK. Updated t=
his (<a href=3D"https://github.com/ietf-wg-idr/draft-ietf-idr-link-bandwidth=
/commit/91cf7dae03e74226fc4badafded9a8fef14b06c9">GitHub-Link</a>)<o:p></o:p=
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ze:11.0pt"><br>
3. I was unsure what actually this means, is it really a requirement?:<br>
" If any of the paths lack a valid Link Bandwidth Extended Community,<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; ECMP (Equal-Cost Multi-Path) MUST be used instead."<br>
- Maybe this could mean something like, if there is no Link Bandwidth Extend=
ed<br>
Community then ECMP can (MAY) be used?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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=99t have a valid LBWC that it is not possible to do accurate WECMP. Hence t=
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<p>GF: I do not agree.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>I read the requires action as "MUST NOT use&nbsp;<span style=3D"font-fami=
ly:&quot;Courier New&quot;">WECMP and MAY use ECMP".<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p>RD1&gt; &nbsp;Please review suggested text :<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>=E2=80=9C<span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Segoe UI&quot;,sans-serif;lette=
r-spacing:.1pt">If any of the paths lack a valid Link Bandwidth Extended Com=
munity, ECMP (Equal-Cost Multi-Path) MAY be used.=E2=80=9D</span><o:p></o:p>=
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Some other comments are:<br>
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The current abstract is too terse to be useful:<br>
- It does not mention 'link bandwidth', please explain this.<br>
- It does not say that this describes both the format of the type and the<br=
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<p>GF: Please could you also address this issue?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>RD1&gt; ACK, updated this. <span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&q=
uot;">(<a href=3D"https://github.com/ietf-wg-idr/draft-ietf-idr-link-bandwid=
th/commit/91cf7dae03e74226fc4badafded9a8fef14b06c9">GitHub-Link</a>)</span><=
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ze:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">=E2=80=9CThis document define=
s a BGP Extended Community, the Link Bandwidth Extended Community, which car=
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 in multipath scenarios. It specifies the format and processing rules for th=
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<p>GF: Look good to me.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>I look forward to proposals to address the last couple of comments.<o:p><=
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<p>RD1&gt; &nbsp;ACK, I have updated the abstract. <span style=3D"font-famil=
y:&quot;Courier New&quot;">
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mit/91cf7dae03e74226fc4badafded9a8fef14b06c9">GitHub-Link</a>)</span><o:p></=
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<p>Best wishes,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Gorry<o:p></o:p></p>
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