Re: [Idr] Mirja Kühlewind's No Objection on draft-ietf-idr-ix-bgp-route-server-11: (with COMMENT)
Nick Hilliard <nick@foobar.org> Tue, 14 June 2016 10:15 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Idr] Mirja Kühlewind's No Objection on draft-ietf-idr-ix-bgp-route-server-11: (with COMMENT)
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Christopher Morrow wrote: > err, maybe nick was thinking there might be more revisions on his > text options? something like that. Who was it who said that dealing with the IETF is like being nibbled to death by ducks? > I'm not a native bgp speaker, but I'd question (for instance) the use > of 'AS_PATH segment' in this part of the draft, given: > again, I'm not a native bgp speaker No, you're correct. > so I'm probably off base, but... maybe there's a revision in the > revision still to be had before updating the actual draft archive? That would probably be tempting fate but then again, the reason the IETF exists at all is because fate was tempted. It would be a shame to lose that spark. Randy Bush wrote: > i think what might be said is "creating an undesirably longer AS_PATH" > and thus biasing receivers against using the exchange. "creating an undesirably longer AS_PATH" works, but "biasing receivers against using the exchange" is language that I would prefer to avoid, the reason being that route servers have an expected behaviour which is to provide a comparable topology view to bilateral peering. In this regard, jamming the RS ASN into the path violates the principal of least astonishment. The art is to distil this sentiment into a single sentence. The wording has been updated as follows: github.com/fooelisa/draft-jasinska-ix-bgp-route-server/commit/686ed8a Is there consensus on this wording? If so I'll post -12. Nick
- Re: [Idr] Mirja Kühlewind's No Objection on draft… Nick Hilliard
- Re: [Idr] Mirja Kühlewind's No Objection on draft… Randy Bush
- Re: [Idr] Mirja Kühlewind's No Objection on draft… Nick Hilliard
- Re: [Idr] Mirja Kühlewind's No Objection on draft… Marco Marzetti
- Re: [Idr] Mirja Kühlewind's No Objection on draft… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] Mirja Kühlewind's No Objection on draft… Niels Bakker
- Re: [Idr] Mirja Kühlewind's No Objection on draft… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] Mirja Kühlewind's No Objection on draft… Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF)
- Re: [Idr] Mirja Kühlewind's No Objection on draft… Christopher Morrow
- Re: [Idr] Mirja Kühlewind's No Objection on draft… Marco Marzetti
- Re: [Idr] Mirja Kühlewind's No Objection on draft… Randy Bush
- Re: [Idr] Mirja Kühlewind's No Objection on draft… Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: [Idr] Mirja Kühlewind's No Objection on draft… joel jaeggli
- Re: [Idr] Mirja Kühlewind's No Objection on draft… Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: [Idr] Mirja Kühlewind's No Objection on draft… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] Mirja Kühlewind's No Objection on draft… Marco Marzetti
- Re: [Idr] Mirja Kühlewind's No Objection on draft… Nick Hilliard
- Re: [Idr] Mirja Kühlewind's No Objection on draft… Randy Bush
- Re: [Idr] Mirja Kühlewind's No Objection on draft… Christopher Morrow
- Re: [Idr] Mirja Kühlewind's No Objection on draft… Randy Bush
- Re: [Idr] Mirja Kühlewind's No Objection on draft… Nick Hilliard
- Re: [Idr] Mirja Kühlewind's No Objection on draft… Randy Bush
- Re: [Idr] Mirja Kühlewind's No Objection on draft… Nick Hilliard
- Re: [Idr] Mirja Kühlewind's No Objection on draft… Nick Hilliard
- Re: [Idr] Mirja Kühlewind's No Objection on draft… Randy Bush
- Re: [Idr] Mirja Kühlewind's No Objection on draft… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] Mirja Kühlewind's No Objection on draft… Randy Bush
- Re: [Idr] Mirja Kühlewind's No Objection on draft… Christopher Morrow
- Re: [Idr] Mirja Kühlewind's No Objection on draft… Randy Bush
- Re: [Idr] Mirja Kühlewind's No Objection on draft… Christopher Morrow
- Re: [Idr] Mirja Kühlewind's No Objection on draft… Randy Bush
- [Idr] Mirja Kühlewind's No Objection on draft-iet… Mirja Kuehlewind
- Re: [Idr] Mirja Kühlewind's No Objection on draft… Nick Hilliard
- Re: [Idr] Mirja Kühlewind's No Objection on draft… Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF)