Re: [Idr] RFC-compliant use of Extended Length for new BGP attributes
Jeffrey Haas <jhaas@pfrc.org> Thu, 13 March 2008 18:50 UTC
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From: Jeffrey Haas <jhaas@pfrc.org>
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Subject: Re: [Idr] RFC-compliant use of Extended Length for new BGP attributes
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On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 11:11:24AM -0700, Vishwas Manral wrote: > > The packet is well formed. As you say, by 1771 rules, it is > > semantically incorrect. The only implementation I would expect to do > > anything about this would be the ones run by conformance validation tools. > I agree to all you say. However I would say all implementations > following RFC1771 strictly would break. Implementations that strictly followed RFC 1771 wouldn't have interoperated well with much of the Internet. Consider the fact that AS_PATH length is not one of the inputs to route selection. Also keep in mind that RFC 2119 wouldn't be published for almost 2 more years after 1771. It's probably best to keep in mind that 1771 was known to have bugs - enough bugs for 26 consequent drafts to fix them. There are still bugs in 4271 although their magnitude is probably significantly less on an interoperability basis. Conformance to the spec to the exclusion of interoperating with other vendors may earn you friends with the test tool manufacturers but it certainly won't make your customers happy. -- Jeff _______________________________________________ Idr mailing list Idr@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr
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- Re: [Idr] RFC-compliant use of Extended Length fo… Marcelo Schmidt
- Re: [Idr] RFC-compliant use of Extended Length fo… Vishwas Manral
- Re: [Idr] RFC-compliant use of Extended Length fo… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] RFC-compliant use of Extended Length fo… Vishwas Manral
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- Re: [Idr] RFC-compliant use of Extended Length fo… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] RFC-compliant use of Extended Length fo… Samita Chakrabarti
- Re: [Idr] RFC-compliant use of Extended Length fo… Paul Jakma