Re: [Idr] WG LC on draft-ietf-idr-large-community-03.txt (10/17/2016 to 10/31/2016)

Jeffrey Haas <jhaas@pfrc.org> Wed, 19 October 2016 22:31 UTC

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> On Oct 19, 2016, at 6:29 PM, Nick Hilliard <nick@foobar.org>; wrote:
> 
> Brian Dickson wrote:
>> "Global Administrator:  A four-octet namespace identifier.  This MUST be
>> an Autonomous System Number.
> [...]
>>   Implementations MUST allow the operator to specify any value for the
>>   Global Administrator field. Implementors MUST NOT restrict permitted values
>>   of ASN
> 
> so summarising:
> 
> - operators: you MUST use an ASN
> - implementers: you MUST allow any value
> 
> I'm really not convinced that it's good protocol definition practice to
> state one set of rules for implementers and another for operators, where
> the two sets of rules are not actually compatible with each other.

I think this is nicely stated.

As recently noted, the operator proscription is an operational consideration.  In that context, it's fine.  And simply moving it to an operational considerations section may close this discussion.

-- Jeff