Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reservation-00
Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net> Wed, 12 December 2012 19:38 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reservation-00
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On Dec 12, 2012, at 2:11 PM, Warren Kumari wrote: >> >> And if so do you really assume those who will use it are so stupid >> that they would leak those ? > > Oh Gods yes. Maybe not stupid, but accidents *will* happen. > > But, if there is not a "reserved" range, folk are likely to just squat on some numbers and will be as (or more likely) to leak this… > > If this is a reserved range at least external folk can more easily see that this is a leak, and isn't as likely to end up as path poisoning a legitimate AS. Yes, they will leak them. They will be persistent, and most BGP users aren't concerned about the impact. Take this currently visible global route: 2800:130::/32 12956 19169 27947 65001 27820 I
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- [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reservati… John Scudder
- Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reser… David Farmer
- Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reser… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reser… Geoff Huston
- Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reser… Tony Li
- Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reser… Warren Kumari
- Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reser… Jared Mauch
- Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reser… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reser… Jared Mauch
- Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reser… Tony Li
- Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reser… Christopher Morrow
- Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reser… Geoff Huston
- Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reser… Jared Mauch
- Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reser… Tony Li
- Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reser… David Farmer
- Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reser… Jon Mitchell
- Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reser… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reser… Brian Dickson
- Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reser… Geoff Huston
- Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reser… Geoff Huston
- Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reser… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reser… Geoff Huston
- Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reser… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reser… John G. Scudder
- Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reser… Randy Bush
- Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reser… Christopher Morrow
- Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reser… Christopher Morrow
- Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reser… Christopher Morrow
- Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reser… Randy Bush
- Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reser… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reser… Brian Dickson
- Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reser… Christopher Morrow
- Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reser… Tony Li
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- Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reser… Brian Dickson
- Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reser… Randy Bush
- Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reser… Randy Bush
- Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reser… Tony Li
- Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reser… Randy Bush
- Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reser… David Farmer
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- Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reser… Geoff Huston
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- Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reser… Randy Bush
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- Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reser… Jon Mitchell
- Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reser… Susan Hares
- Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reser… Jon Mitchell
- Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reser… Nick Hilliard
- Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reser… Susan Hares
- Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reser… Susan Hares
- Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reser… Edward Crabbe
- Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reser… Susan Hares
- Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reser… Edward Crabbe
- Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reser… Jon Mitchell
- Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reser… David Farmer
- Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reser… Susan Hares
- Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reser… David Farmer
- Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reser… Jeff Wheeler
- Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reser… Nick Hilliard
- Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reser… Warren Kumari
- Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reser… Jon Mitchell
- Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reser… Jon Mitchell
- Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reser… Susan Hares
- Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reser… t.petch
- Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reser… Susan Hares
- Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reser… Jeff Wheeler
- Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reser… John G. Scudder
- Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reser… Richard A Steenbergen
- Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reser… Stewart Bryant