Re: [Idr] Mirja Kühlewind's No Objection on draft-ietf-idr-ix-bgp-route-server-11: (with COMMENT)

Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net> Tue, 14 June 2016 04:26 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Idr] Mirja Kühlewind's No Objection on draft-ietf-idr-ix-bgp-route-server-11: (with COMMENT)
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Let's observe that nothing prevents such "one" to extend it's inbound
AS_PATH for nets he learns from RS with additional AS to make it less
preffered ... without any special action to be taken by RS itself.

Thx
R.
On Jun 13, 2016 23:48, "Randy Bush" <randy@psg.com> wrote:

> > i think what might be said is "creating an undesirably longer AS_PATH"
> > and thus biasing receivers against using the exchange.
>
> my bad (trans-pac and not enough coffee).  we're discussing the
> opposite, why one might want the RS to have an AS in my path.  well, to
> me it would be because i have one a path directly from peer and one via
> the RS.  i would prefer the former.  see draft-ietf-idr-rs-bfd-01.txt
> for why i kinda like to know layer two is up.
>
> randy
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