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From: "UTTARO, JAMES" <ju1738@att.com>
To: Susan Hares <shares@ndzh.com>, "'IDR List'" <idr@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: [Idr] draft-ietf-idr-bgp-flowspec-oid-11.txt - Working Group
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Sue,

              Let me double check with the manager of this team..

Thanks,
              Jim Uttaro

From: Susan Hares <shares@ndzh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2020 12:08 PM
To: UTTARO, JAMES <ju1738@att.com>; 'IDR List' <idr@ietf.org>
Subject: RE: [Idr] draft-ietf-idr-bgp-flowspec-oid-11.txt - Working Group L=
ast Call (3/30 to 4/13)

Jim:

Is this information for public consumption?   If so, can I place it on idr =
wiki and shepherd's report.

If not, may I forward the information to Alvaro so he can use it to pass th=
is work through the IESG.

Thanks,  Sue Hares

From: UTTARO, JAMES [mailto:ju1738@att.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2020 10:04 AM
To: Susan Hares; 'IDR List'
Subject: RE: [Idr] draft-ietf-idr-bgp-flowspec-oid-11.txt - Working Group L=
ast Call (3/30 to 4/13)

Sue,

              Apologies I could not attend today's IDR meeting. As per our =
conversation last week,  AT&T has deployed the following services that dist=
ribute flowspec updates/rules from a centralized controller that depend on =
the flowspec-oid technology specification. Note these are all on demand.

a.      Edge Blocking
b.      DDOS Diversion
c.       Traffic Rate Limiting

Thanks,
              Jim Uttaro

From: Idr <idr-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:idr-bounces@ietf.org>> On Behalf Of =
Susan Hares
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 12:44 PM
To: 'IDR List' <idr@ietf.org<mailto:idr@ietf.org>>
Subject: [Idr] draft-ietf-idr-bgp-flowspec-oid-11.txt - Working Group Last =
Call (3/30 to 4/13)

This is a 2 week WG LC for  draft-idr-bgp-flowspec-oid-1.txt.
You may find the draft at:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-flowspec-oid/<https://u=
rldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__datatracker.ietf.org_doc_draf=
t-2Dietf-2Didr-2Dbgp-2Dflowspec-2Doid_&d=3DDwMFAg&c=3DLFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjI=
g&r=3Ds7ZzB4JbPv3nYuoSx5Gy8Q&m=3Du07uFO3Esv1oju44LBsuc0AQoi7HkiD6lsCmVo8Qsm=
w&s=3DYJZzMD_DisrQZDVVs9UmQg4uGvd9FZZNk7CDGo9vb3I&e=3D>

Based on our discussion at the 3/30/2020 interim,
Most  Flow Specification implementations add this feature.

1) draft authors will send a response to this email with their IPR statemen=
ts.
2) draft authors will update the IDR wiki page

https://trac.ietf.org/trac/idr/wiki/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-flowspec-oid%20imple=
mentations<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__trac.ietf=
.org_trac_idr_wiki_draft-2Dietf-2Didr-2Dbgp-2Dflowspec-2Doid-2520implementa=
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IU500dO6LKWyI9Hg&e=3D>

3) The WG will run a 2 week WG last call discussion

During this discussion please indicate:

a) What deployments you know about
  (3rd party information about an implementation is fine)

b) Are there any issues with the implementations

c) Is this specification ready for publication?

Cheerily, Sue  Hares



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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:#7030A0">Su=
e,<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:#7030A0"><o=
:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:#7030A0">&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
; Let me double check with the manager of this team..<o:p></o:p></span></b>=
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:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:#7030A0">Th=
anks,<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:#7030A0">&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
; Jim Uttaro<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Susan Hares &lt;shares@ndzh.com&gt; <br=
>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 08, 2020 12:08 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> UTTARO, JAMES &lt;ju1738@att.com&gt;; 'IDR List' &lt;idr@ietf.or=
g&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Idr] draft-ietf-idr-bgp-flowspec-oid-11.txt - Working =
Group Last Call (3/30 to 4/13)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Jim:<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Is this information fo=
r public consumption?&nbsp;&nbsp; If so, can I place it on idr wiki and she=
pherd&#8217;s report.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">If not, may I forward =
the information to Alvaro so he can use it to pass this work through the IE=
SG.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Thanks,&nbsp; Sue Hare=
s <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;f=
ont-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif"> UTTARO, JAMES [<a href=3D"mailto=
:ju1738@att.com">mailto:ju1738@att.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 8, 2020 10:04 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Susan Hares; 'IDR List'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Idr] draft-ietf-idr-bgp-flowspec-oid-11.txt - Working =
Group Last Call (3/30 to 4/13)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:#7030A0">Su=
e,<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:#7030A0"><o=
:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:#7030A0">&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
; Apologies I could not attend today&#8217;s IDR meeting. As per our conver=
sation last week, &nbsp;AT&amp;T has deployed the following services that d=
istribute flowspec updates/rules from a centralized
 controller that depend on the flowspec-oid technology specification. Note =
these are all on demand.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:#7030A0"><o=
:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-li=
st:l0 level1 lfo2">
<![if !supportLists]><b><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:#7030A0"><spa=
n style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">a.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Rom=
an&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span></b><![endif]><b><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color=
:#7030A0">Edge Blocking
<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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st:l0 level1 lfo2">
<![if !supportLists]><b><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:#7030A0"><spa=
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</span></span></span></b><![endif]><b><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-li=
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<![if !supportLists]><b><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:#7030A0"><spa=
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an&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span></b><![endif]><b><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color=
:#7030A0">Traffic Rate Limiting<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:#7030A0"><o=
:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:#7030A0">Th=
anks,<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:#7030A0">&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
; Jim Uttaro<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:#7030A0"><o=
:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Idr &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:idr-bounces@i=
etf.org">idr-bounces@ietf.org</a>&gt;
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Susan Hares<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 30, 2020 12:44 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'IDR List' &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:idr@ietf.org">idr@ietf.org</a>&=
gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Idr] draft-ietf-idr-bgp-flowspec-oid-11.txt - Working Grou=
p Last Call (3/30 to 4/13)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">This is a 2 week WG LC for &nbsp;draft-idr-bgp-flows=
pec-oid-1.txt.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">You may find the draft at: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?=
u=3Dhttps-3A__datatracker.ietf.org_doc_draft-2Dietf-2Didr-2Dbgp-2Dflowspec-=
2Doid_&amp;d=3DDwMFAg&amp;c=3DLFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg&amp;r=3Ds7ZzB4JbPv3nYu=
oSx5Gy8Q&amp;m=3Du07uFO3Esv1oju44LBsuc0AQoi7HkiD6lsCmVo8Qsmw&amp;s=3DYJZzMD=
_DisrQZDVVs9UmQg4uGvd9FZZNk7CDGo9vb3I&amp;e=3D">https://datatracker.ietf.or=
g/doc/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-flowspec-oid/</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Based on our discussion at the 3/30/2020 interim, <o=
:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Most &nbsp;Flow Specification implementations add th=
is feature. <o:p>
</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">1) draft authors will send a response to this email =
with their IPR statements.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">2) draft authors will update the IDR wiki page <o:p>=
</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?=
u=3Dhttps-3A__trac.ietf.org_trac_idr_wiki_draft-2Dietf-2Didr-2Dbgp-2Dflowsp=
ec-2Doid-2520implementations&amp;d=3DDwMFAg&amp;c=3DLFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg&=
amp;r=3Ds7ZzB4JbPv3nYuoSx5Gy8Q&amp;m=3Du07uFO3Esv1oju44LBsuc0AQoi7HkiD6lsCm=
Vo8Qsmw&amp;s=3DX6dkMmpuFsA4ctk0kmlBG4_l6j_IU500dO6LKWyI9Hg&amp;e=3D">https=
://trac.ietf.org/trac/idr/wiki/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-flowspec-oid%20implementa=
tions</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">3) The WG will run a 2 week WG last call discussion =
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">During this discussion please indicate: <o:p></o:p><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">a) What deployments you know about <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp;(3<sup>rd</sup> party information about =
an implementation is fine)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">b) Are there any issues with the implementations <o:=
p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">c) Is this specification ready for publication? <o:p=
></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cheerily, Sue &nbsp;Hares <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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