Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN range
"UTTARO, JAMES" <ju1738@att.com> Tue, 03 July 2012 01:45 UTC
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From: "UTTARO, JAMES" <ju1738@att.com>
To: 'Jon Mitchell' <jrmitche@puck.nether.net>, "idr@ietf.org" <idr@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN range
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Jon, Seems reasonable.. I do not fully get the context.. You describe the fact that the increase in the number of AS across both l3VPN and Internet use cases are expanding rapidly.. No Doubt... So I see the creation of the new spaces and ranges.. My concerns are in re the Operations Considerations Section a) You are creating a set of rules for the internet routing context. " If private use ASNs are used and prefixes are originated from these private use ASNs which are destined to the Internet, private use ASNs must be removed from the AS_PATH before being advertised to the global Internet. " How does this effect folks who use AS_PATH and/or AS_CONTENT in routing policy decisions? Better question is there an issue if all of the Private ASNs are stripped? b) You specify no rules in re the L3VPN routing context(s). c) Not sure how this would work? If someone screws up what is the collateral damage? " Prior to making use of the second, numerically higher, range of these ASNs network operators should be confident any implementation specific features or filters that recognize private use ASNs have been updated to recognize both ranges correctly so that no unintended announcement of private use ASNs to the Internet " Thanks, Jim Uttaro -----Original Message----- From: idr-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:idr-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jon Mitchell Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 12:49 PM To: idr@ietf.org Subject: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN range IDR WG folks - I hope you can take some time from the normal debate(s) to consider and review a fresh draft on expanding the ASN space reserved for Private Use. All comments regarding content, clarity or structure welcome. Cheers, Jon -- A new version of I-D, draft-mitchell-idr-as-private-reservation-00.txt has been successfully submitted by Jon Mitchell and posted to the IETF repository. Filename: draft-mitchell-idr-as-private-reservation Revision: 00 Title: Autonomous System (AS) Reservation for Private Use Creation date: 2012-06-20 WG ID: Individual Submission Number of pages: 4 URL: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-mitchell-idr-as-private-reservation-00.txt Status: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-mitchell-idr-as-private-reservation Htmlized: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-mitchell-idr-as-private-reservation-00 Abstract: This document describes the reservation of Autonomous System numbers (ASNs) that may be used within networks but should not be advertised to the Internet, known as private use ASNs. This document enlarges the total space available for private use ASNs by documenting the reservation of a second larger range and updates RFC 1930. The IETF Secretariat _______________________________________________ Idr mailing list Idr@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Christopher Morrow
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Randy Bush
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Jeffrey Haas
- [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN range Jon Mitchell
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … David Farmer
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Jon Mitchell
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … UTTARO, JAMES
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Jon Mitchell
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Jon Mitchell
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Randy Bush
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Randy Bush
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Jon Mitchell
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Jon Mitchell
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Jon Mitchell
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Brian Dickson
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … heasley
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Jon Mitchell
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Christopher Morrow
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Christopher Morrow
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … David Farmer
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Brian Dickson
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Jon Mitchell
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Randy Bush
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Christopher Morrow
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Christopher Morrow
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Jon Mitchell
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Jon Mitchell
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] new ID on expansion of private use ASN … David Farmer