Re: [Idr] [GROW] draft-snijders-idr-shutdown-00: Drop a line in the peer's syslog at shutdown

[Nick Hilliard <[e-mail]>]

Neil J. McRae wrote:
> I would be deploying automation to take care of network
> problems/issues/whatever whether I worked at BT or I was the admin of
> a network with four and a half nodes.

For sure.  e.g. we've automated the hell out of INEX (which has more
than 4.5 nodes btw).  The point is that most ASNs are a good deal
smaller than this, and less amenable to automation than IXPs.  There's
simply no point in writing automation software to handle one or two
routers with 5 or fewer ebgp sessions between them, which describes the
overwhelming majority of ASNs in the world.

> We have the world and his wife automating and innovating on top of
> -our- internet platform and we are still encouraging behaviours like
> it was 1992 (I'd say like mission control in the 60s but I think they
> had more automation back then!)

Rather than castigating people for their shortsightedness, did you take
the time to ask e.g. Job why a large carrier like NTT might want this
feature?  Their network is likely to be highly automated.

Nick