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"Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)" <ginsberg@cisco.com> Wed, 09 December 2020 01:12 UTC

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From: "Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)" <ginsberg@cisco.com>
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Subject: Re: [Idr] Changes to draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-registry
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Adrian -

Thanx - as always - for your diligence.
I think this revision is consistent with the outcome of the email discussion.

I am concerned about Section 2.1 #8:

"In the event that the document fails to progress to RFC, the
       Working Group chairs or AD SHOULD contact the Designated Expert
       to coordinate with IANA over marking the code points as
       deprecated following similar principles to Section 3.3 of
       [RFC7120]."

I think the phrase "similar principles" leaves the door open to lots of ambiguity. If you do not want to follow RFC 7120 Section 3.3, what do you want to do? How much deviation from RFC 7120 Section 3.3 before "similar" does not apply? I do not think leaving this a bit vague is desirable.

I am also not clear on why you say (below) that we are not doing early allocations. If these aren't early allocations, what are they? Which also makes me wonder why you could not simply say "follow RFC 7120 Section 3.3"??

  Les



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Idr <idr-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Adrian Farrel
> Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2020 12:45 PM
> To: 'IDR List' <idr@ietf.org>
> Cc: idr-chairs@ietf.org
> Subject: [Idr] Changes to draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-registry
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Thanks to all for the useful input and sorry for the long delay while
> "things" got in the way.
> 
> I made some changes to the draft according to Alvaro's comments and then
> updated the DE guidance per the discussions on list.
> 
> Ketan noted that point 6 of the guidance in RFC 7370 talks about "timeouts"
> per RFC 7120. That only applies to early allocations, and that's not what
> we're doing. I think it is still worth carrying text about what happens if
> the document never becomes an RFC, so I have retained something similar,
> but
> different. I hope this is consistent with what Les said.
> 
> Acee additionally suggested that code point requests should be "fully
> transparent to the LSR list". I haven't added this, but it would be simple
> to do if there is support for it.
> 
> Since the text changes are pretty much the whole draft, the easiest thing
> seems to be to post an update and then invite you to review and comment.
> So
> that's what I have done.
> 
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-registry
> 
> Cheers,
> Adrian
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