Re: [Idr] [GROW] Deprecation of AS_SET and AS_CONFED_SET -- feedback requested

Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net> Thu, 26 September 2019 00:16 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Idr] [GROW] Deprecation of AS_SET and AS_CONFED_SET -- feedback requested
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(Obviously my search in e-mail today went afoul, I see it’s adopted.. but like I said.. there’s a lot more AS_SETs that appeared in BGP announcements since this was posted).

- Jared

> On Sep 25, 2019, at 8:13 PM, Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net> wrote:
> 
> (I didn’t see any follow-up) but I suspect the intent was adoption.
> 
> I did notice after this a few more BGP announcements with AS_SET occurring on a very regular basis.  I suspect someone is doing some research on it, perhaps someone reading this e-mail :-)
> 
> - Jared
> 
>> On Aug 7, 2019, at 12:23 PM, Susan Hares <shares@ndzh.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Sriram: 
>> 
>> Are you asking for WG Adoption of this draft at this time or just feedback?
>> 
>> 
>> Sue 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: GROW [mailto:grow-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Sriram, Kotikalapudi
>> (Fed)
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 11:43 AM
>> To: IDR; GROW WG
>> Cc: idr-chairs@ietf.org; sidrops@ietf.org
>> Subject: [GROW] Deprecation of AS_SET and AS_CONFED_SET -- feedback
>> requested
>> 
>> There was significant interest expressed during a SIDROPS presentation in
>> Montreal and in the discussion that followed at the mike about advancing the
>> following individual draft:
>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-kumari-deprecate-as-set-confed-set-14  
>> (standards track)   
>> 
>> The authors have revised and uploaded a new version (-14).
>> Your inputs/comments are welcome. In particular, please share any specific
>> operational considerations/concerns you may have regarding this topic.
>> 
>> (Note: A BCP was published on this topics in 2011 --
>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6472 )   
>> 
>> Thank you.
>> 
>> Sriram
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