Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reservation-00

Jon Mitchell <jrmitche@puck.nether.net> Thu, 29 November 2012 19:10 UTC

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From: Jon Mitchell <jrmitche@puck.nether.net>
To: Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reservation-00
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As I've stated before, mis-configuration or improper use of private use
ASNs doesn't seem to be highly correlated to the size of the range.  If
this were an issue, I guess, we would expect that a network would be
leaking close to 1K ASNs today that then would expand to many thousands
or millions after the draft is approved?

Any network can filter private ASNs as well as various other types of
ASNs on ingress that they do not want to not accept/propogate.  This
draft will have no impact on whether people tend to do that correctly or
not in my opinion.  Folks who have no use for more than a thousand
internal use ASNs today are not likely to use this new range. 

Jon

On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 01:19:30PM -0500, Christopher Morrow wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Tony Li <tony.li@tony.li> wrote:
> >
> > On Nov 29, 2012, at 9:50 AM, Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net> wrote:
> >
> >>> Internet folks will say "Do not trash our environment"
> >>
> >> As an operator, I feel this is a fair thing for me to say. :)
> >
> >
> > Indeed it is.
> >
> > However, I think it's also fair to point out that allocating a chunk from a large namespace and effectively taking out of the big I environment doesn't do much to trash it.
> >
> 
> because private asns don't leak?
> route-views>sho ip bgp regex _64..._
> <snip>
>    Network          Next Hop            Metric LocPrf Weight Path
> *  27.123.19.0/24   195.66.232.239                         0 5459 38082 64549 ?
> *  41.76.104.0/21   196.7.106.245            0             0 2905 11845 64525 i
> *  41.90.0.0/16     114.31.199.1             0             0 4826 8966
> 33771 65535 64555 64555 33771 i
> *                   194.85.40.15                           0 3267 2603
> 8966 33771 65535 64555 64555 33771 i
> *  41.209.32.0/19   164.128.32.11                          0 3303 174
> 9129 9129 9129 9129 {4558,15808,64520} i
> *  131.124.1.0/24   69.31.111.244            0             0 4436 4323 64778 i
> *  131.124.2.0/24   69.31.111.244            0             0 4436 4323 64778 i
> *  131.124.3.0/24   69.31.111.244            0             0 4436 4323 64778 i
> *  131.124.4.0/24   69.31.111.244            0             0 4436 4323 64778 i
> *  131.124.5.0/24   69.31.111.244            0             0 4436 4323 64778 i
> 
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