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Re: [Idr] Fwd: Slot request in IDR to present https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-idr-bgp-route-refresh-options-00.txt

Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> Mon, 01 August 2016 11:48 UTC

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> Of course you have bogons, policies with AS_PATH .. tons of regex etc
> ...  but:

your question was absolute.  i answered.

> #1 you do not usually remove them

bogon lists shrink as address space is allocated.  yes, v4 not so much
these days, but v6 yes.

> #2 if you modify them you just can't ask you peer for specific prefix
> and assume your BGP got synced up correctly.

we were not discussing 93 other possible mechanisms.  you asked a
question; i answered.  the goal was not to see how much you could
wiggle, despite it being election season.

randy

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