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Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com> Tue, 19 October 2021 13:50 UTC

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Subject: Re: [ieee-ietf-coord] RFC8691 and 802.11bd
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Does the 802.11bd D2.0 of July 2021 mention 'IPv6'?

Alex

Le 15/07/2021 à 21:24, Alexandre Petrescu a écrit :
> Hi, participants to the IEEE-IETF coordination,
> 
> RFC8691 "IPv6 over OCB" is produced by the IPWAVE WG of IETF.  It 
> describes the layering of the IPv6 network protocol on top of the 802.11 
> MAC in OCB mode.  This mode is the preferred mode of operation for 
> automobile networks that involve 802.11.  This OCB mode is also known as 
> 802.11p, and will be used in the future 802.11bd to be released by IEEE 
> in 2022.
> 
> I would like to say that it will be a great idea if the 802.11bd 
> document cited RFC8691 whenever the former said 'IPv6'.  It would be a 
> perfect match.
> 
> How to achieve that goal?
> 
> I think there might be a few hurdles in achieving it:
> 
> - I do not have regular access to the 802.11bd ongoing developments, and 
> the latest documents.  I am not a member of the IEEE respective group.
> 
> - some IEEE people often think that _if_ there is a network layer in 
> automobile networks, then that would first be the IEEE's networking 
> layer for it, which is IEEE 1609.3, and 'WSMP', which is a different 
> thing than the IP networking layer.  It might be that IEEE gives 
> preference to that networking layer instead of IP.
> 
>  From an architecture point of view, I think there is no comparison to 
> be made between those two networking layers.  The IP networking layer 
> clearly has several advantages, scuh as its addressability capacity and 
> the forwarding of datagrams for scalability.
> 
>  From an implementation point of view, I did see many implementations of 
> this IPv6-over-OCB (802.11p) running in many automobile networks. An 
> implementation of IPv6-over-OCB of 802.11bd is only around the corner, 
> not posing any significant challenge in realization.
> 
> Maybe these worries are not really founded, and maybe it is extremely 
> easy to cite RFC8691 in 802.11bd.  But how to do it?
> 
> Alex
> 
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