Minutes of the 2018-09-27 IETF-IEEE 802 Coordination Teleconference Present: - Donald Eastlake - Bob Grow - Jodi Haasz - Ted Hardie - Pat Kinney - Suresh Krishnan - Ted Hardie - Russ Housley - Scott Mansfield - Roger Marks - Cindy Morgan - Paul Nikolich - Erik Nordmark - Alvaro Retana - Max Riegel - Jon Rosdahl - Dorothy Stanley - Jeff Tantsura - Pat Thaler - Pascal Thubert - Peter Yee - Juan Carlos Zuniga 1. Welcome, roll call, agenda bashing Russ Housley welcomed everyone to the call. No new items were added to the agenda. 2. Action item updates - Done o Russ Housley and Dorothy Stanley to send out a Doodle poll to schedule the next coordination group call during the latter half of September 2018. - In Progress o Bob Heile to send a short description of 802's LPA project with pointers to Russ Housley for inclusion in the coordination list. - New o Russ Housley and Dorothy Stanley to draft agendas for each of the joint events in Bangkok and try to get a sense of the attendees required for each topic. o Cindy Morgan to look for a breakfast slot for the group during the IETF week and report back. 3. IETF new work summary - WGs Using GitHub (WUGH) Russ Housley reported that the IETF's use of GitHub continues to grow. This BOF will look at whether there is support in the community to warrant more detailed discussions with the IETF Tools Team and the IETF Secretariat about the functional requirements and process details needed to support integrating GitHub use into WG work. - Remote ATtestation ProcedureS (RATS) Russ Housley reported that this is a WG-forming BOF on secure and resilient network protocols to convey attestation evidence in order to establish trust. 4. 802 New Work summary Dorothy Stanley noted that the PAR webpage has not been updated since 802's July meeting, as their submission deadline is still a few weeks away. Potential upcoming work in IEEE 802 includes: - 802.11 Task Group on broadcast services - 802.3 industry connections activity for new ethernet applications - 802.3ca PAR modification and extension request to remove 100 Gb/s operations - 802.3cs PAR on increased reach for optical subscriber action - 802.22 PAR extension on TD whitespace - 802.22.3 spectrum-sensing PAR Dorothy Stanley will send out details on all of these as they become available. 5. Review current coordination items - Item 3. IETF NVO3 and IEEE 802.1 DCB Dorothy Stanley reported that 802.1Qcy is still in sponsor ballot. - Item 5. Enabling use of Local Addresses for virtualization and IoT Suresh Krishnan said that there has not been any progress on this since July, but that he will keep the group posted. - Item 11. IETF and IEEE 802.1 OmniRAN TG Roger Marks noted that the OmniRAN TG is now also responsible for 802.1CQ (see item 5). Dorothy Stanley reported that the current draft of P802.1CF is available at . Max Riegel has an action to send an email to the coordination list with the current status. Dorothy will ask Max if there are also updated versions of the other documents. - Item 21. 6tisch Pascal Thubert reported that draft-ietf-6tisch-6top-protocol is currently in the RFC Editor Queue. Russ Housley asked if further coordination was needed with 802.15. Pascal Thubert replied that once the RFC is published they will need to talk about how to get the work to 802.15.12. - Item 24. Coordination between the IETF and IEEE 802 on Pervasive Monitoring Juan Carlos Zuniga reported that the 802E document is now version 1.1. The chair of the 802.1 Security Task Group plans to go through the comments during their November meeting. Juan Carlos will send a pointer to the document once the comments from the WG ballot are resolved, hopefully by the end of the year. - Item 25. Layer2/Layer 3 Interaction for Time-Sensitive Traffic There will be an all-day meeting in Bangkok to discuss this topic between 802.1 and the DetNet WG. - Item 27. Development of YANG models in the IEEE 802 Friendly names for ethertypes remains a point of concern. Suresh Krishnan reported that draft-ietf-netmod-acl-model is currently in IESG Evaluation, and asked Bob Grow to forward it to the RAC. Dorothy Stanley said that the RAC and the 802 Yangsters group would review draft-ietf-netmod-acl-model and send comments back (or an acknowledgement if there are no comments). - Item 30. Intelligent Transportation Systems (ITS) Dorothy Stanley reported that the V2X work is up for consideration in 802.11 in November. She will send a link to the current PAR and CSD once they are approved. Russ Housley reported that the OCB work is working to resolve an issue in the document related to neighbor discovery. - New items Dorothy Stanley noted that Bob Heile still has an action from the previous meeting to send a short description of 802's LPA project to Russ Housley for inclusion in the coordination list. Dorothy Stanley reported that 802 has formed a real-time application interest group focused on gaming and asked if this would require coordination. Russ Housley replied that the IETF had a WG that did some work on multiparty gaming protocols, but they never published any RFCs, and the IETF doesn't have anyone working on the now except the ART Area as a whole. 6. Meetings in Bangkok Russ Housley asked if the coordination group needs to have a breakfast meeting during the IETF week, given the joint activities planned for the following weekend. Ted Hardie noted that some people from the IETF side will not be able to stay for the weekend, and suggested that a breakfast might be useful, depending on the agenda topics. Russ Housley and Dorothy Stanley will draft agendas for each of the events and try to get a sense of the attendees required for each topic. Cindy Morgan will look for a breakfast slot for the group during the IETF week and report back. Jon Rosdahl asked those planning to stay for the weekend to register at so that the meeting planners can plan the space and catering appropriately. 7. Adjourn