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Stewart Bryant <stewart.bryant@gmail.com> Sat, 16 November 2019 13:14 UTC

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Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2019 21:14:14 +0800
Cc: Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com>, "<ieee-ietf-coord@ietf.org>" <ieee-ietf-coord@ietf.org>, Scott Mansfield <scott.mansfield@ericsson.com>
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Subject: Re: [ieee-ietf-coord] ITU-T SG13 / FG NET-2030
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Deborah

You need to look at their white paper and the output of SubG2.

Anyone can subscribe to the FG (you do not need to be an ITU-T member) and look at the proposals.

- Stewart


> On 16 Nov 2019, at 11:52, BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A <db3546@att.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Russ,
> 
> I cc'd Scott as our ITU liaison - he'll know the latest - I forget if he's on the coordination group list.
> 
> I don't recall if we received a liaison on the FG yet, we did get one from TSAG on another IP-related work:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1653/
> 
> Deborah
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ieee-ietf-coord <ieee-ietf-coord-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Russ Housley
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> Subject: [ieee-ietf-coord] ITU-T SG13 / FG NET-2030
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> 
> I was recently told about an effort to take over significant standards work currently being led by the IETF.   The work taking place in ITU-T Study Group 13 / Focus Group on Technologies for Network 2030, lead by Dr. Richard Li as the FG NET-2030 chairman. The group appears to be looking to redesign the layer 3 and 4 protocols to centralize functions that would enable/facilitate data aggregation and surveillance.
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> Does anyone on this list know if FG NET-2030 is actually gaining ground?
> 
> Russ
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