Re: [Ieprep] Hiccup Bar BOF

Fred Baker <> Tue, 20 March 2007 05:19 UTC

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From: Fred Baker <>
Subject: Re: [Ieprep] Hiccup Bar BOF
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 06:19:46 +0100
To: Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine <>
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There were a lot of things that didn't work in Katrina. Fuel trucks  
that would have run communications diverted to fuel hospitals, for  
example. The delayed recognition at the state level of the emergency  
that legally prevented the deployment of federal resources, later  
reported as a delay on the part of FEMA. The fact that wireless  
networks deployed for use by first responders were swamped by well- 
meaning volunteers who set up their web sites over those same  
networks. ...

The fact that COs were ripped out of the ground bodily, or being 25'  
below sea level had their generators flooded, really didn't help.

There are a lot of issues above the application layer.

Note that this refers to "times of crisis". I don't think it has in  
view times when one has to parachute in a new network because the old  
one has been swept away bodily. It has to do with the one we've got.

On Mar 20, 2007, at 5:32 AM, Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine  

> Fred,
> I'm out in the middle of Joshua Tree, so I won't be at the bar.
> After the Katerina landfall the wireless volunteer efforts, plus  
> the Naval Post-Graduate School group that had prior exercise in the  
> Boxing Day Tsunami aid effort found some pretty banal problems.
> Nothing sexy like QoS, but lack of "I am alive (or not)" db app and  
> or protocol, formal relief efforts that attempted to field VoIP  
> with a centralized directory (in Washington) to camps served by  
> very fragile networks, junk like that.
> It isn't rocket science, but not everything we do is, and when it  
> doesnt' work, for many days at a time, due to lack of clarity at  
> level 9 that non-first responders, non-privileged users, need to  
> have dialtone and email and a browser, its wicked awkward for the  
> people who are having he emergency.
> Eric

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