Re: [Ieprep] IAA charter item query

Henning Schulzrinne <hgs@cs.columbia.edu> Thu, 06 October 2005 17:15 UTC

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From: Henning Schulzrinne <hgs@cs.columbia.edu>
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If this wasn't obvious from my previous note, I would certainly advocate 
that standardization activities in this area are undertaken. I'm less 
convinced that a transport-layer group is the right venue for that. 
Maybe a BOF should investigate whether this is a components or a systems 
issue, i.e., do we need more protocols or "just" somebody to put 
existing things together?

I also suspect that without participation by, say, the ICRC, FEMA and 
other bodies, that such activities will be largely ignored. The 
traditional model of translating IETF activities into practice via 
hardware and telecom systems vendors is not likely to work well here.

(Also, it might be worth noting that OASIS is working on data formats 
related to law enforcement and emergency alerting.)

Henning

GOLDMAN, STUART O (STUART) wrote:
> Eric,
> 
> I may not have been clear in my original response. I was giving support for the need for such a service and using the protracted disruption of service in a large geographical area coupled with the mass migration of that population out of the area and dispersed across the country.
> 
> I was then trying to understand how such a service could coming into existence and what protocol enhancements, if any, would be needed. (example: is preference needed?)
> 
> Henning has an excellent point that a single, uniform service capability would be much preferred over a collection of diverse service points with different procedures, formats, etc.
> 
> Personally I would hate to see any supporter of the need for IAA drop themselves from the mailing list.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Stu Goldman
> Lucent Technologies
> 5531 E. Kelton LN
> Scottsdale,AZ 85254
> 602 493 8438 home office
> 623-582-7136 voicemail  
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eric Brunner-Williams at a VSAT somewhere
> [mailto:brunner@nic-naa.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 7:50 PM
> To: Henning Schulzrinne
> Cc: GOLDMAN, STUART O (STUART); Eric Brunner-Williams at a VSAT
> somewhere; Ieprep@ietf.org; brunner@nic-naa.net
> Subject: Re: [Ieprep] IAA charter item query 
> 
> 
> Henning,
> 
> I'm not trying to convince you, or anyone, that any rather trivial application
> is in-scope for any working group. Nor that the absnece of such a mechanism is
> a cause for load upon first-responder and emergency coordination network
> traffic, for weeks after the failure of the communications fabric.
> 
> If there is no further clue, I'll unsub and leave you all to the chartered
> deliverables.
> Eric

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