Re: [ietf-822] WSJ/gmail/ML, was a permission to...

[Brandon Long <[e-mail]>]

On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 3:12 AM, Paul Smith <[e-mail]> wrote:

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> On 05/05/2014 07:01, Brandon Long wrote:
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>> Gmail does allow you to use a third party submission server, and it looks
>> like we may have to encourage its use even more in the future.
>>
>
> We're thinking that as well, or just stopping forwarding services at all.
>
> The problem with forwarders using third party services' submission servers
> is that the user would need to give out their login details - which is a
> big issue. Maybe users should be able to create extra sets of
> authentication details for their submission servers, but ONLY for mail
> going to their own email addresses, for forwarding servers to use. These
> could still let the messages be blocked by a spam filter, but would let the
> receiving server know that the messages are coming from a forwarding
> server, so (a) the forwarding server's reputation should not be affected by
> spam from there, and (b) some checks like DKIM might have to be
> ignored/loosened.
>
> I suppose that a scheme like this could potentially be extended to mailing
> lists - when you subscribe, you give authentication details as well as an
> email address.


I wasn't talking about forwarding or mailing list through MSA, I was
talking about sending from one service through another (ie, if you use
Gmail as your "client" to access your Yahoo account, you can set it up to
use pop/smtp-msa just like any non-web client).

Trying to use submission servers for forwarding/mailing lists... I don't
think that would be fun.  You'd be better off fetching messages with pop
instead of forwarding.

Brandon