Re: [ietf-822] "--" first in lines to indicate start of signature
Russ Allbery <eagle@eyrie.org> Mon, 04 January 2016 23:33 UTC
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Subject: Re: [ietf-822] "--" first in lines to indicate start of signature
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Hector Santos <hsantos@isdg.net> writes: > But do they use "-- " automatically or is it user-defined (added)? Automatically. You specify the contents of the signature (via various ways), and the process of appending the signature coded in the client automatically adds the "-- " delimiter line. > Yes, the history is long there but also for other formats or even no > "tag" formats at all, e.g.; just with a tab and name, perhaps. I'm probably arguing with something you're not actually saying, so feel free to ignore me if that's the case. But I feel like you're misunderstanding the degree to which this is part of the netnews article format. This is not a random convention that just some people use on the netnews side; it's built into every netnews client I know of that supports signatures, and is very widely supported on the reading side as well. (For example, my client does syntax highlighting of the signature block, greying it out, and supports automatically omitting the signature from quoted follow-ups.) It was commmon for people on netnews to point out to others when the signature delimiter was mangled (missing the trailing space, for instance), and there are netiquette conventions for acceptable length and related issues. (The Google search term is "McQuary limit".) It may be just one of many conventions in email. It is an actual, interoperable standard in the netnews world, albeit an ad hoc one rather than a formalized one. Insofar as mail and netnews share a common message format, "-- " deserves a bit more special attention from the implementor than, say, random examples of FidoNet conventions. Proper handling is a quality of implementation issue if you ever touch netnews. -- Russ Allbery (eagle@eyrie.org) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>
- Re: [ietf-822] "--" first in lines to indicate st… Florian Weimer
- [ietf-822] "--" first in lines to indicate start … Jacob Palme
- Re: [ietf-822] "--" first in lines to indicate st… Richard Clayton
- Re: [ietf-822] "--" first in lines to indicate st… Russ Allbery
- Re: [ietf-822] "--" first in lines to indicate st… Russ Allbery
- Re: [ietf-822] "--" first in lines to indicate st… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [ietf-822] "--" first in lines to indicate st… Russ Allbery
- Re: [ietf-822] "--" first in lines to indicate st… Jacob Palme
- Re: [ietf-822] "--" first in lines to indicate st… Hector Santos
- Re: [ietf-822] "--" first in lines to indicate st… Hector Santos
- Re: [ietf-822] "--" first in lines to indicate st… Jacob Palme
- Re: [ietf-822] "--" first in lines to indicate st… Hector Santos
- Re: [ietf-822] "--" first in lines to indicate st… Jacob Palme
- Re: [ietf-822] "--" first in lines to indicate st… Russ Allbery
- Re: [ietf-822] "--" first in lines to indicate st… Hector Santos
- Re: [ietf-822] "--" first in lines to indicate st… Russ Allbery
- Re: [ietf-822] "--" first in lines to indicate st… Hector Santos
- [ietf-822] DKIM differs from "--" first in lines … Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [ietf-822] DKIM differs from "--" first in li… Jim Fenton
- Re: [ietf-822] "--" first in lines to indicate st… Randall Gellens