Re: Ballot: The PPP Encryption Control Protocol (ECP) to Proposed Standard
Fred Baker <fred@cisco.com> Sat, 23 March 1996 01:01 UTC
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From: Fred Baker <fred@cisco.com>
Subject: Re: Ballot: The PPP Encryption Control Protocol (ECP) to Proposed Standard
Cc: Internet Engineering Steering Group <iesg@CNRI.Reston.VA.US>
At 5:27 PM 3/21/96, Steve Coya wrote: >Personally, I still maintain approving these I-Ds that do NOT contain >any information pertaining to Motorola Patent Claims (they don't even >contain the word "patent") is not a good thing, and not having the >point-of-contact in the I-Ds do a dis-service to those folks who will >be implementing the protocols. The problem here, so Dave Rand told me once upon a time, that under patent law if a paper mentions a patent claim, then in a court that is deciding the applicability of the claim, this is prima face evidence that the claim is applicable. To add (as you just suggested be done for Mobile IP) an appendeix stating that Motorola asserts that their claims apply, is one thing, perhaps; to say anything more is prima face evidence that Motorola's bogus claims are not bogus. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. If it is sufficient to include a note with IP mobility, when we send it to the RFC editor, saying "please add this appendix saying Gonzo Inc asserts that they have a valid claim, please talk to them", then it is sufficient to do the same with PPP CCP. If it is not good enough for CCP, then I want a real good explanation of why it's good for IP mobility? BTW, "bogus" is a kind term in the context of this draft... =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= It has recently been discovered that research causes cancer in rats.
- Re: Ballot: The PPP Encryption Control Protocol (… Fred Baker
- Re: Ballot: The PPP Encryption Control Protocol (… Steve Coya
- Re: Ballot: The PPP Encryption Control Protocol (… Keith Moore
- Re: Ballot: The PPP Encryption Control Protocol (… Frank Kastenholz
- Re: Ballot: The PPP Encryption Control Protocol (… Fred Baker