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Re: [Ietf-and-github] Adam Roach's No Objection on draft-ietf-git-using-github-05: (with COMMENT)

Dan York <york@isoc.org> Thu, 12 March 2020 14:48 UTC

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From: Dan York <york@isoc.org>
To: "Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" <evyncke=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
CC: Adam Roach <adam@nostrum.com>, The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>, "draft-ietf-git-using-github@ietf.org" <draft-ietf-git-using-github@ietf.org>, "ietf-and-github@ietf.org" <ietf-and-github@ietf.org>, "git-chairs@ietf.org" <git-chairs@ietf.org>, "caw@heapingbits.net" <caw@heapingbits.net>
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Subject: Re: [Ietf-and-github] Adam Roach's No Objection on draft-ietf-git-using-github-05: (with COMMENT)
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I agree with Eric’s comment here… 

> On Mar 12, 2020, at 7:47 AM, Eric Vyncke (evyncke) <evyncke=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
> 
> I agree with your hope but I strongly object to remove sentence. This is already a major issue that the IETF & IESG are proposing a single commercial server; but, at least let's state that it deviates from the IAB statement about IPv6 [1] so let's keep this sentence of course with a timestamp as you proposed.


… because I’ve had to repeatedly answer criticism about using services that deviate from the IAB guidance on IPv6 (and the overall promotion of IPv6 throughout IETF activities).  Let’s just explicitly state that we are using GitHub with the full awareness that it does NOT comply with that IPv6 guidance. 

Per Adam’s suggestion, perhaps the text of the sentence should be:

> GitHub is freely accessible on the open Internet, albeit only via IPv4 at the time this document is published.


Regards,
Dan

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