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Re: [Ietf-and-github] Rules regarding ownership of orgs

"Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com> Wed, 18 March 2020 16:30 UTC

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From: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>
To: "Rob Wilton (rwilton)" <rwilton@cisco.com>, Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net>
CC: Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>, "ietf-and-github@ietf.org," <ietf-and-github@ietf.org>, Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
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>    Isn't that a split between organizational owner vs admins? 

I could well be wrong here.  HOWEVER, it seems likely that the WG chair will be creating the organization, and therefore be an owner.  There's lots of room for customization and tweaks (GitHub bikeshedding?), and the draft doesn't suggest how to do *everything.*  Tools like Martin's, or my scripts, help codify things, but the WG chair still has, rightly so, a great deal of leverage to set up the GH organization as they see fit.  Those things together indicate, to me, that they need to own the organization and repo's within it.   

>    What you are proposing seems to be a larger change, i.e. taking the ADs
    out of the loop altogether?
  
That wasn't my intent.  There are three potential groups to be owners: WG chair, AD, secretariat. I was only suggesting a minimum number and pointing out the pool of candidates to be owner.

>    administration, but it will seem to be somewhat strange if the github
    organization hierarchy doesn’t somewhat match the IETF organizational
    hierarchy.

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